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#1
My friends band was playing a house show last night and I was there. I was about 5 years too old for this show as it was a bunch of 18 year old ska kids... but the audience was being totally stupid. A few of the kids were smashing into people who were just there to have a good time and watch the band. I had to grab one kid and just throw him on the ground because he was out of control and actually trying to hurt people.

Then the same kid, TWICE, went up and kicked the guitar players pedals at difference points knocking the power cables loose which caused the guitar player to be silent for close to 3ish minutes while he got it back together.

Anyway the band was really nice about it, they just nicely asked if they could calm down and not hit the pedals anymore. Obviously it didn't happen. So a few people ended up hurt and a bookcase got broken and the show sucked because the guitar player was pissed because people kept screwing with his stuff. After the show the guys in my band and I agreed that if any of that happened at our show we would not have handled it so well. Just wanted your input.
#2
If anyone gets too close to the stage, you sock 'em back.

That's what Henry Rollins did, that's what I'd do.
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#3
If people are dicks to us, then we're gonna be dicks to them, simple as.
If they have a problem with our show, then they can GTFO
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#4
I'd go ape**** and start swinging my guitar at people, probably do more damage than the stupid kid. But then I have wicked anger issues.
#5
I would go mental if that happened because NO-ONE touches my gear. Yeah, they'd all be dead.
#6
As a non-violent person, I would announce that if they continued to behave badly, we'd stop the show. If they ignored the warning, I'd pull the plug, start packing up, and leave.

To those of you inclined to swing back, that can be a dangerous move. It may just escalate the violence, and there are possible criminal and civil implications. Even if you believe you are defending yourself, it is possible not everyone will see it that way. If you clock a kid for kicking your pedals, you are the one who committed assault. I think it is best just to walk away.
#7
There's no excuse for what that guy did, I've played at house parties and it's still someone's house. I'm not saying it's right to be a dick while watching a band anywhere but especially not in someone's home causing trouble with their freinds.

You, the band or whoevers house it was should have told him to leave or else.
#8
Quote by chokmool
As a non-violent person, I would announce that if they continued to behave badly, we'd stop the show. If they ignored the warning, I'd pull the plug, start packing up, and leave.

To those of you inclined to swing back, that can be a dangerous move. It may just escalate the violence, and there are possible criminal and civil implications. Even if you believe you are defending yourself, it is possible not everyone will see it that way. If you clock a kid for kicking your pedals, you are the one who committed assault. I think it is best just to walk away.

This.

That or have someone remove that one specific kid from the show.
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#12
some1 tried to touch my pedals once....now he dosent have teeth and runs when he hears the door open
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#13
What you should do is have a landmine hidden amongst your pedals...when some dick kicks it his foot will be blown off.
#14
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Exactly what I wanted to post, and that's being serious. If too many people in the crowd piss about leave. It's their loss.
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What you should do is have a landmine hidden amongst your pedals...when some dick kicks it his foot will be blown off.

Call me crazy, but that just might backfire somehow.
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#16
Just have someone keep them back like a bodyguard.
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#17
Turn up the volume as loud as it possibly will go. Turn the levels on your pedals as high as they'll go. Then just start raping the equipment.

I guarantee that everybody will be silent and well-behaved in 10 seconds or less.

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#19
To those saying they'd attack people with their guitars, why would you do that? You'd damage your own equipment and people would fight back.

Swinging your guitar at someone is setting yourself up for a failblog feature.

If people continue to be dicks, end the show. There's no need for you to continue.
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#20
If anyone messed with my gear....ideally I'd get them thrown out/end the show if it happens often. But realistically, I'd definatly attack the ****er, haha.
#21
Play through a bad crowd, be polite, but firm that they are being a pain. If it gets beyond reasonable, put on some recorded music really loud and call it a night for live performance. Don't just shut down and walk off, then the rest of the crowd will turn against you.
#22
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What you should do is have a landmine hidden amongst your pedals...when some dick kicks it his foot will be blown off.
On paper it's a good idea, but what happens when you wanna set the tap tempo on your delay?
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#23
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This.

That or have someone remove that one specific kid from the show.


What kind of remove, we talking? *wiggles eyebrows suggestively*
#24
Damn, am I one of the only people who think that being polite is the forward?

I'd never even think of booting someone out UNLESS they're were being COMPLETE DEECKS.
#25
Get bright orange or green or yellow, or some bright color duct tape. Make a line on the floor. Tell people to stay behind the line. Or put a line of floor monitors there.

We usually just use floor monitors to block people from coming past it. But, at a recent show we played at, the last band didn't need our PA, so we moved it out to the van while they were setting up, so we could leave sooner. They just used the bright duct tape and everyone seemed to be fine about it.

If they cross the line. boot em.
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#26
If they only knocked my pedals once, I would just tell everyone to calm down or something because it might have been an accident. If it happened again I would or I would probably get kinda pissed and, if I were on a raised stage, kick the guy hard in the face and ask the person running the show to escort him out
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#27
Keep playing. I mean if they're rowdy, ask them to calm down. But if the people are booing or just making nasty ass comments in between songs, ignore them, and keep playing. They win if their trash talk gets to you. You win if you make them know that they are as significant as a turd that is already flushed down the toilet.
#29
Finish the song. Tell them in between songs that if they act like ****, you're packing up. Use angry, but calm words. Single people out. "There's a little jerk in a blue shirt out there on the floor messing with people. If he tries to start some **** again, feel free to let him have it. Kid, you've been warned. We're all here to have a good time."

Unless you are personally attacked (you, not your pedals or amp), don't hit the guy. Throwing him out into the crowd is perfectly acceptable though.

Just be sure that whatever you say or do, you don't actually say, "Beat that guy up."
#30
Quote by AlanHB
To those saying they'd attack people with their guitars, why would you do that? You'd damage your own equipment and people would fight back.

Swinging your guitar at someone is setting yourself up for a failblog feature.

If people continue to be dicks, end the show. There's no need for you to continue.

I know for a fact my guitar will be less hurt than whoever I hit.
#31
I would have speared that mother****er with my V. Nah...I wouldn't want to hurt the axe like that lol. But that's a crappy risk you run at house parties cause they usually don't have any sort of security. But if some asshole is touching your stuff, there's gotta be SOMEONE in charge. Just ask them to show that kid the door.
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#32
Lol we have all in ear monitors so we cant ever hear anyone saying anything to us, unless everyone is yelling at the same time. However I have pushed a guy off stage once.

A young kid, maybe 15-16, tried to touch my pedals and switch some stuff on and off, I just said at the end of the song "Man, I'd appreciate it if you didnt mess with my stuff. I don't come to your shows and mess with your stuff, so keep your hands on your own stuff. We are just trying to do a good show for all these other people and you are messing it up." He immediately turned red and slinked back into the crowd, but he stopped.
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#33
Quote by chokmool
As a non-violent person, I would announce that if they continued to behave badly, we'd stop the show. If they ignored the warning, I'd pull the plug, start packing up, and leave.

To those of you inclined to swing back, that can be a dangerous move. It may just escalate the violence, and there are possible criminal and civil implications. Even if you believe you are defending yourself, it is possible not everyone will see it that way. If you clock a kid for kicking your pedals, you are the one who committed assault. I think it is best just to walk away.


im non violent to but for me that ounds hard then not actually just going and beating the kid up

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#35
seems to me like this is an example of "that one guy" being a douche as opposed to the crowd really turning against you. in that case, it often works to single him out, unless he's piss-ass drunk, in which case you might need to get someone to bounce him. if it's a house party, that person would be the owner/complete authoritarian dictator of social outcaste doom (hey, it's his party). if it's a bar, there should be security on hand.

now, if you're in a hard rock or metal band... you kinda' want a crazy guy or two to fire up your pit, but never do you want some dick to touch your ****. natural barriers are the best (i.e. a high stage, or portable fencing), but if you can't have these at a particular gig, might be a good idea to put your stuff where people would have to go through you first... then it's not assault, it's self defense... cite the Dimebag tragedy at your court hearing.

another idea... got anyone who's REALLY REALLY into your band? give 'em one of your t-shirts and a job for the night doing security if you think you're gonna be in a rough situation like the one presented on this thread.

now, if the whole crowd turns against you... THAT's tricky. I've seen it happen, and the guys on stage really taught me a lesson that night. They continued through their set as far as anyone could tell, but after the show I talked with their drummer, and he said they had a pre-established plan for that scenario JUST IN CASE! their plan consisted of a few more covers and call it a night (so actually it was cut short, but no one knew), but any plan made before hand seems like the right idea... otherwise you get caught up in emotions and make mistakes, sometimes costly ones.

on a side note, Rox: what ear monitors do you use/suggest? I've been thinking of trying to convince my guys to make the switch... stage monitors are just (1) a huge hassle and (2) an acoustic nightmare.
#37
The band who we opened for last week had trouble with the crowd. Guys kept coming on stage and taking the microphones and picking up my band's guitars and stuff. What the singer did was, inbetween songs, he said, away from the microphone, to the people onstage and to some of the people at the front, that they weren't going to play any more songs unless they got off stage. One guy wasn't too willing but the people in the front row got him off without any tears and the band finished their show.
#38
We've yet to have any hecklers, but this one band that opened for us did, and the drummer just yelled back. It didn't work and the crowd wasn't having it, lol. They finished their set though.
I probably would have tried to finish the set and been done with it. I wouldn't have thanked the crowd or the venue though, as 1) the crowd was being terrible and 2) It's the venues responsibility to keep teh crowd under control.
#39
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Call me crazy, but that just might backfire somehow.



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On paper it's a good idea, but what happens when you wanna set the tap tempo on your delay?


Put your Delay-Mine somewhere really odd on your chain, where a guitarist wouldn't usualy(usually?) put a delay...You'll know from common sense that its a land mine due to position but any Tom, Dick and Harry will think its a Delay Pedal and BOOM!

Better yet, make it one of those exploding paint packs that they use in Banks to protect money...so no death, just one really wet and purple dickhead audience member
#40
or just hire a paintball sniper to watch you back?

...or a ninja. ninjas never lose starring contests you know.
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