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Sam Ash is offering the Spider Valve for just $400!! UG, give me reasons to buy or not to buy
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#4
haven't really checked it out, it's so hard to really get a feel for an amp in a store. but i don't like the spider iii, i'll tell ya that much
#5
spider valve = spider with with tubes,

take your pic from that
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#7
Spider valve

Cons
Sounds like a slightly warmer spider III at lower volumes.

Pros
At higher volumes it sounds like a ton warmer spider III with a ton of power tube saturation masking the downside of having a modeller.

End result... High volume decent amp decent tone. Lower volumes spider III paper weight tone
#8
b-52 at112>Spider valve

Sounded like a spider with tubes to me, better but not that much better.
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spider valve = spider with with tubes,

take your pic from that



Spider Valves are a lot better than Spiders dude... have you ever played one or are you just bandwagoning? I'll assume it's that. TS, If you can afford it get a Vetta II... otherwise the Spider Valve would be good but there are (a few) better amps for the money. It's still a good chioce. I hate modelling amps with a passion but I like the Valves and Vetta IIs. Play one and see if you like it or just buy it and return it if you don't. Your decision.

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imo, the b52 at112 = most overrated tube amp in existence

Eh, yeah that's true to an extent. I don't think it deserves ALL the hype it gets (which is alot) but for the price range it's one hell of an amp.
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imo, the b52 at112 = most overrated tube amp in existence


Well, I kind of agree to a point but the main reason people sing its praises is the price tag. A decent sounding tube amp for that price is tough to come by.

edit:^just saw that post above me
#12
You have to really turn it up or it sounds like the Spider. By that time though...the blue led crunch model is horrible with feedback. I had play on one that Camp Electric in Nashville furnished during a sort of open mic jam. It was bad during the solo... If you can turn it up loud enough and you don't use that model, it should be fine.
#13
The Line 6 Flextone III is closely behind the Spider Valve in tone and is roughly the same price. But as said, the B52 AT is a nice alternative.
Someone on here actually picked up a Vetta II for $500 in the last few days.
#14
Quote by Carrot
spider valve = spider with with tubes,

take your pic from that

No, sorry.

Nice try though.


SV > AT112 any day.
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#15
I liked the one I played. It was a good amp and sounded good too. It was like a Spider, I will say, but the tubes gave it the umph of extra crunch that made it sound really nice. Its like a Spider that got jolted with an AED, sounds much more alive.

However, it seems like Line 6 is trying to compete more and more with the Vypyr. I seemed to like the Vypyr Tube I played more than the Spider Valve.
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No, sorry.

Nice try though.


SV > AT112 any day.


If MatrixClaw says SV> AT112, then listen to him, he has the last word when it comes to amps.
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#18
I'm not a fan of the spider valve but I still think it's a good amp. The modeling is pretty much the same as the spider 3 but the valve amp aspect is good. I like running digital modeling pedals in front of my valve amps but I like the Roland modeling pedals much better than the spider modeling. It's all personal taste. If you were linking the tone then 400 is a good price.
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#19
Quote by Carrot
spider valve = spider with with tubes,

take your pic from that

fail - your sig clearly doesn't apply to this particular thread.

the SVs are quite good amps - i occasionally jam with a guitarist who owns one - it sounds good but he gets really wound up by the fact there's no medium volume on some settings - it's either very very quiet or very very loud on the master volume and you have to use the channel volume to balance it out, but then, as soon as you change a setting... boom, the volume has changed again; a typical problem with line 6 and their "inconsistent preset volume" feature... that's the only negative thing i can think of about the spider valve when you're paying that much for it.

^@ corduroy- i believe the spider valve modelling is actually from the pod XT, which is quite a lot better than the spider modelling.
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#20
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fail - your sig clearly doesn't apply to this particular thread.

the SVs are quite good amps - i occasionally jam with a guitarist who owns one - it sounds good but he gets really wound up by the fact there's no medium volume on some settings - it's either very very quiet or very very loud on the master volume and you have to use the channel volume to balance it out, but then, as soon as you change a setting... boom, the volume has changed again; a typical problem with line 6 and their "inconsistent preset volume" feature... that's the only negative thing i can think of about the spider valve when you're paying that much for it.

^@ corduroy- i believe the spider valve modelling is actually from the pod XT, which is quite a lot better than the spider modelling.


Could you not remedy that problem with a volume pedal? Or am I just a total noob.
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ok well maybe i was wrong with the spider thing

YES i have played one, one of the first batch ones wasn't blown away by it
wasnt enjoyable while playing it, sounds ok imo

and whats with mt HT5? take it you dont like them?
and again i was one ofthe first to have one
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#22
Yeah, the volume issue is definitely something I noticed with it. You can easily fix it though by just going to each preset you use and adjusting the volumes on each to be the same.

One thing though, is that the actual stock presets on the SV are pretty bad. You really need to make your own and get to know the amp, it really livens up. On some of the super high gain models, there is a fizz that is difficult to dial out, but it can be gotten rid of.

I actually really liked the SV the last time I tried it. I was A/Bing it with a 5150 at Guitar Center, and I liked the SV better It's not a plug-and-play instant awesome tone, that's for sure, but once you get good at tweaking it, it's an excellent sounding amp. For $400, that's a steal, unless you're getting some insane deal, there isn't a single better amp you can get for that price, especially new and especially if you need versatility.
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#23
I've played a Spider Valve 212 at my music store. It's certainly better than a Spider, but it isn't amazing. Like all of the Spiders, I didn't really like any of the channels in particular, but the effects sounded better than on the SS Spiders.

EDIT: I was playing at a low volume, so I wasn't really able to get that warm tube tone.
#24
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCj1k3paCRI
This was played on a Spider Valve 212. If you're a good enough player and don't use heaps of gain to hide your mistakes, then the Spider Valve sounds AWESOME. The same as any other amp, I suppose.
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#25
If your a good enough player and you're dealing with tube amps under $800, does it really matter what your playing through
#26
If I was in a cover band and needed a good amp on a budget, I'd get the Spider Valve for sure. To me it sounds closer to a tubed Flextone than to a Spider III, although it's still not quite as good as the Vetta.

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Yeah, the volume issue is definitely something I noticed with it. You can easily fix it though by just going to each preset you use and adjusting the volumes on each to be the same.

One thing though, is that the actual stock presets on the SV are pretty bad. You really need to make your own and get to know the amp, it really livens up. On some of the super high gain models, there is a fizz that is difficult to dial out, but it can be gotten rid of.

I actually really liked the SV the last time I tried it. I was A/Bing it with a 5150 at Guitar Center, and I liked the SV better It's not a plug-and-play instant awesome tone, that's for sure, but once you get good at tweaking it, it's an excellent sounding amp. For $400, that's a steal, unless you're getting some insane deal, there isn't a single better amp you can get for that price, especially new and especially if you need versatility.
It's the same with many modelling amplifiers. It's hard to find the "amps tone" without some serious tweakage.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCj1k3paCRI
This was played on a Spider Valve 212. If you're a good enough player and don't use heaps of gain to hide your mistakes, then the Spider Valve sounds AWESOME. The same as any other amp, I suppose.

That sounds sweet. It has a better blues tone than the Vetta then
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#30
is there anything that competes with this that has high gains that don't sound like **** for the price?
#31
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Could you not remedy that problem with a volume pedal? Or am I just a total noob.

not unless it was in the FX loop. in front of the amp you'd just be adjusting the level of the input signal which would affect the tone a bit.

i fully agree with matrixclaw - it's certainly not an instant-tone tool - with so much to adjust it is going to require a lot of tweaking before you get a satisfactory sound out of it. when you get it just right it sounds excellent though.
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#32
I think Spider hate has infested many a soul, and thats a shame. Too many of us have become plug and play gutarists. Ive played every one of them, and actually have my eye on the SV 100 head. I already have a shortboard, so Im invested.

These amps sound great, and Im glad many of you feel the same way. There are better amps out there, sure. Buy guess what, (Targeting all the Amp Elitists out there), someone has a better amp that YOU too.

TS/ Buy one, you wont be dissapointed. Youll become a guru of knob turning and channel switching, as well you should be, as we all should be.
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+1 to Jonny Ryan. I do think that some spiders do sound like crap in the high gain, but so do other amps that ppl suggest. And obviously there r better amps out there. I mean, I don't think Slash is using Line 6 on his solo album but it can still be good.
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I think Spider hate has infested many a soul, and thats a shame. Too many of us have become plug and play gutarists. Ive played every one of them, and actually have my eye on the SV 100 head. I already have a shortboard, so Im invested.

These amps sound great, and Im glad many of you feel the same way. There are better amps out there, sure. Buy guess what, (Targeting all the Amp Elitists out there), someone has a better amp that YOU too.

TS/ Buy one, you wont be dissapointed. Youll become a guru of knob turning and channel switching, as well you should be, as we all should be.


+1

I was in GC a few days back and I tried a Spider Valve, it took a few minutes of eq-ing but once it was over with, I had a nice heavy metal sound.
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#35
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I liked the one I played. It was a good amp and sounded good too. It was like a Spider, I will say, but the tubes gave it the umph of extra crunch that made it sound really nice. Its like a Spider that got jolted with an AED, sounds much more alive.

However, it seems like Line 6 is trying to compete more and more with the Vypyr. I seemed to like the Vypyr Tube I played more than the Spider Valve.


Fail. The Spider Valve came out WAY before the Vypr tube, which is EXTREMELY ovverated, espescially on this forum.

The Spider Valve is a very decent amp, pay no mind to the bandwagoners on this board. For gods sake theres people who start a flame war at just the name 'line 6'.

If you like it then get it, if you dont buy something you do, theres not point wasting money on something your not going to be entirely happy with.

Get a JSX.
#36
Errbody else has this going for 799.00

ZZ sounds has it at under 5 bills.



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#38
Wow, the head is $450 at zzounds? Sick. I'm trying very hard not to buy one of these...
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Wow, the head is $450 at zzounds? Sick. I'm trying very hard not to buy one of these...


+1

After I made the power amp comment I found that on zzounds and now the wheels are a turnin
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I just submitted it to MF and asked if they could price match them... then you get a 10% discount LOL.
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