#1
OK, I was on here a couple of days ago and I wanted to find out what Scale worked with these Chords (D5, Eb5, Gb5, and F5). This is Step 1.

So someone told me that you get a Major 2nd, Minor 3rd, and a Major 7th from those. I understand how he got those Chords. This is Step 2.

From that he said that a Eb Harmonic Minor had those 3 traits (for the lack of a better word) and that I would need to know the scale formulas to find out how that worked. Step 3

What I don't know is how you know what formula had those traits?

Harmonic Minor Formula (I believe) = W,H,W,W,H,3frets.
Last edited by Blckspawn at Aug 12, 2009,
#2
Look at the notes contained in the chords you're using, listen for where the music resolves to and put the two together...you should be able to figure out a scale that fits from that information.
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#3
Might help to look at the scales in terms of intervals rather than steps...

major = R, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
minor = R, 2, b3, 4, 5, b6, b7
harmonic minor = R, 2, b3, 4, 5, b6, 7
etc
#4
D5 = D and A
Eb5 = Eb + Ab
Gb= Gb + Db
F5 = F + C
so you have A Ab C Db Eb F and Gb
this means that you have Gb A Ab in a row, most likely that A is an accidental.
find what note it resolves to (without my guitar to hand i can't be bothered to do that now) and work out what scale it must be to contain those notes.
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#5
You're still at step 1 because you needed someone elses advice to figure out the scale.

Once you gain familiarity with scale patterns it will become obvious.
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#6
In addition you don't understand step 2 - he wasn't referring to chords at all, he was talking about scale degrees but even then he was jumping the gun a bit. The bottom line is, if somebody else has to tell you that information then you don't understand it.

it's not the most logical or indeed the easiest way to identify your scale though.

Step 1 is to look at the notes your chords contain...ALL of them.
Step 2 is to find where your music resolves to
Step 3 is to use that information to find a scale that matches those criteria based on its notes and intervals.
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D5 = D and A
Eb5 = Eb + A
Gb= Gb + Db
F5 = F + C

Fixed? That solves the problem of the adjacent G, Ab, A notes.
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#8
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Fixed? That solves the problem of the adjacent G, Ab, A notes.


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#9
Ok, please correct me if I'm wrong here. I was playing my guitar and found a chord progression that ( i think) sound decent.

G5, Ab5, F5, G5, Eb5, D5.

G5 to Ab5 gets minor 2nd
Ab5 to F5 gets major 6th
F5 to G5 gets major 2nd
G5 to Eb5 gets minor 6th
Eb5 to D5 gets Major 7th

So from that i'm guessing you get something in the Harmonic major/minor scales or maybe a Double Harmonic Major Scale?
Last edited by Blckspawn at Aug 13, 2009,
#10
You can't work it out that way, not reliably.

You need the notes of the chords and you need to figure out where it resolves.
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#11
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You can't work it out that way, not reliably.

You need the notes of the chords and you need to figure out where it resolves.


Well give me an example of what does work so I can get what your talking about.
#12
Work out the notes the chords contain.
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#13
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Work out the notes the chords contain.


OK

G5 = G5 + D
Ab5 = Ab5 + Eb5
F5 = F5 + C
G5 = G5 + D
Eb5 = Eb5 + Bb
D5 = D + A

What do I do from there?