#1
Hey there everyone,

I've been looking around for a semi/hollowbody lately and wanted some opinions on the Epiphone Dot, the Ibanez Artcore AS73, and also the AF95. I've heard some mixed opinions on the Epiphone before, but I'm not sure if that's just the regular epi haters or if that's actual fact.

How's the quality on these guitars? I'm quite an acoustic guitar buff(I'm the acoustic mod, so I better be! haha), but I'm next to useless when it comes to electric guitars.

My friend's getting a new tube amp soon so I'm going to snatch up his old Roland Cube-15x. I'm really just looking for something to mess around on at home. Not something to play that seriously.

Thank for your help and opinions.
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#2
Toronto, eh? Rip down to Steve's and try out an Epi Sheraton II - miles ahead of the Dot, in my opinion. Reasonable price, too. Actually, I know somebody selling one maybe if you're interested in a PM...
#3
I previously owned the Epi Dot Studio (same as the regular Dot but with a satin finish and just master volume and master tone controls rather than a volume and tone for each pickup). It was actually pretty good, at least in the sense that it didn't break the bank and there was nothing noticably wrong with it. Fretwork was fine, electronics all worked okay, nothing was loose or scratchy - not a master-crafted instrument by any means, but nothing to complain about either.
Epiphone is random though, if you picked up ten Epis at random you might fine nine were good and one would be awful or nine could be awful and only one would be good. Try before you buy is the key to Epiphone, they do make some very good instruments so long as you take the time to shop around, play as many as you can and make sure you get a good one. Never blindly order an Epi online or settle for the first one you see in a shop.
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#4
I played an Ibanez Artcore (cant remember exact model, but it was the one around $350) a while ago in my guitar lesson...beautiful guitar, quite comfortable...but the sound, I dunno if its just me, but it was kinda muddy and dark, even through the bridge pickup, and it wasnt the amp because I was playing one of the better Valvestate Marshalls. On the overdrive, it sounded even worst. It could be the fact that I play a Strat tho. Anyways, as everyone says, you should try one yourself.
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#5
budget?
If you can afford it though i recommend a sheraton II
If you dont have that much to spend id try out an artcore, although dots are still great guitars. you'll probably more likely to find better artcores though, some of the newer dots arent made that good
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I played an Ibanez Artcore (cant remember exact model, but it was the one around $350) a while ago in my guitar lesson...beautiful guitar, quite comfortable...but the sound, I dunno if its just me, but it was kinda muddy and dark, even through the bridge pickup, and it wasnt the amp because I was playing one of the better Valvestate Marshalls. On the overdrive, it sounded even worst. It could be the fact that I play a Strat tho. Anyways, as everyone says, you should try one yourself.


A friend of mine has one and he regrets buying it because of the muddiness. I'm not crazy about it either. Check out Hagstrom Viking. I love it personally, planning on buying one as my next guitar
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#7
Thanks for the replies so far. I'll definitely be trying them out, as I don't believe in buying blind either. I just wanted a general gauge of how well built these guitars are.

As for my budget... still not too sure. I'm saving a lot of money on the amp because my friend's just gonna give it to me for $50 or so, but I want to keep the budget around $500. I'm willing to stretch it to $700 and under if something really catches my eye though.

What about the Casino's and Sheraton II's? How are those?
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#8
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Thanks for the replies so far. I'll definitely be trying them out, as I don't believe in buying blind either. I just wanted a general gauge of how well built these guitars are.

As for my budget... still not too sure. I'm saving a lot of money on the amp because my friend's just gonna give it to me for $50 or so, but I want to keep the budget around $500. I'm willing to stretch it to $700 and under if something really catches my eye though.

What about the Casino's and Sheraton II's? How are those?

Great guitars - but keep in mind the Casino is loaded with P90s, not 'buckers. And for me, I don't know why, they've always looked kinda cheap. Maybe it's the dog-ears, or the trapezoid tailpiece. In any case, if that's your thing go for it. At least give it a try. I would highly recommend the Sheraton II. As I stated, I might be able to maybe give you a PM with contact information for a person who could be selling one, possibly. Cough. Southern Ontario, too.
#9
Check out the epi casino and the wildkat, great semi hollows for the price imo. Btw I am so happy this is not another "what metal guitar" thread.
#10
I used to have an Artcore AS73 and the thing was awesome. I can't comment on the muddiness of the pickups since I only used it acoustically and rarely ever hooked it up to an amp.

Don't know much about the DOT. I tried one at GC and didn't care much for it compared to the AS73. I just sold my AS73 to this guy and he owns a dot that he bought for $40. He was much more happy paying $225 for an AS73 than the $40 he spent on the DOT used.

But with your budget I'm sure there are better out there.
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#11
Of the guitars mentioned, I think the Epiphone Sheraton II is the best that I've played. The Ibanez AS73 is pretty good, as well, but the pickups were underwhelming in it. That comes with the territory, though.
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#12
All the Epiphone semi hollows mentioned are great guitars, I've played them all and I've liked all of them. However what sound are you going for? Humbuckers will be a tad warmer in a semi/ hollow body, and P90s are single coils so they will be a bit snappier. Personally I love the jangle of the P90 loaded Casino.
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#13
I can't comment about the guitars you mentioned but if you want another guitar to put on the list I recommend a Telecaster Thinline or even a Squier Vintage Modified model. They sound pretty good for the price, They sound more alive than solid bodied teles.
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Check out the epi casino and the wildkat, great semi hollows for the price imo. Btw I am so happy this is not another "what metal guitar" thread.




Well, I'm mainly an acoustic player and the semi/full hollowbody electric guitars are really the "acoustic guitarist's" kind of electric, so to speak. Dont get me wrong, I love the twang and throaty sounds of a tele and strat, but I want something more mellow.

How do P90's sound compared to normal single coils? I've never tried an electric with P90's to be honest.

As well, I'm honestly okay with the idea of these guitars having not so great pickups. It'll just be an opportunity to mod--which is why I don't mind buying in the lower price ranges.

I was originally thinking of getting a Dot Studio--since I highly prefer unglossed necks and love the more simplified controls--and adding new pickups and getting a coil tap as well.

@TimboSlice - I'll give you a PM when I'm closer to buying. I'm just doing some research at the moment to get a good idea of where to look an what to look for when I can scrounge up the money. Thanks for the offer though.
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#15
P-90's sound like they have a little more "balls" on them then single coils and do better with more gain than regular single coils. Also the single coils sound fragile and weak compared to P-90's.
#16
P-90s have a fatter tone than single coils but are just as clear, but not quite the crunch offered by a humbucker. out of the casino and sheraton II id go w/ the sheraton, great guitar.
if you like the sound of P-90s one thing you could do is put P-94sinto the sheraton w/o having to do any routing. i usually find some on craigslist in ontario for $500, sometimes cheaper
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