#1
Hey, been playin guitar for a year or so and i got my Schecter C-1 Classic a few months ago. I love the feel of it but want some new pickups to fit my style a bit better. I like playing stuff like Dream Theater, Paul Gilbert, Joe Satriani, and some Rush and Yes. I'm looking for some pickups that suit the style more like Satriani and John Petrucci of Dream Theater. I love Petrucci's tone on his solo album and all of Satriani's stuff. so would like a few suggestions on good pickups. price is not an issue
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#2
If price ain't an option, go with DiMarzio's.


You're a big Petrucci fan? Go with a D-Sonic in the bridge. Same pickup he uses.

Big Satch fan? He's got some signature pickups as well, and so does Paul Gilbert, as well as Steve Vai.

I'd suggest getting an Evolution or Evolution-2 in the neck position, it's a killer pickup.
#3
Quote by The Snowman
If price ain't an option, go with DiMarzio's.


You're a big Petrucci fan? Go with a D-Sonic in the bridge. Same pickup he uses.

Big Satch fan? He's got some signature pickups as well, and so does Paul Gilbert, as well as Steve Vai.

I'd suggest getting an Evolution or Evolution-2 in the neck position, it's a killer pickup.


well if i get the evolution pickup why not get the other evolution to put in the bridge? i went to the music store near my house and they said if i was to get the evolution for the neck i should get an evolution for the bridge pickup too. if i got both evolution pickups could i get that petrucci sound too? or no? oh and what about Petrucci's new pickups? he just put a dimarzio liquifire in the neck and a dimarzio crunch lab in the bridge. would this work for me? i just need to know what i should go for. personally i LOVE Petrucci's tone so i'm leaning toward that latter...but b4 i spend 160 dollars on pickups i wanna make sure i'm doin the right thing so please help
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Last edited by Dempsinator at Aug 14, 2009,
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#5
why are you changing the pickups? Those pickups are SD JB and Jazz, I believe. Think about getting an amp that suits your style?
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Quote by mikeYekim
why are you changing the pickups? Those pickups are SD JB and Jazz, I believe. Think about getting an amp that suits your style?


I need a hotter pickup and i just got a new amp and i like it for what i need. But i would just like something that is hotter than the ones i have and fit the progressive metal style of Dream Theater yet be able to have good cleans and melodies like Joe Satriani...One of my friends said i should look at the mo'joe for the bridge and the liquifire for the neck pickup but the only thing i'm not sure about the mo'joe is is if it can do heavy stuff like Dream Theater etc and handle big complex chords etc.
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Amp- Line 6 Bogner Spider Valve 112 40W
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#8
Do you realize the JB is a high output pickup? And you don't need a high output pickup for metal, a medium one would do just fine. And if it is a high output pup, chances are it won't do satriani very well.
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#9
Quote by Jam3V
What amp are you using? A new amp will help you get your desired tone before a new pickup.


my new rig is in my sig and i like the spider valve (its not a SPIDER 3 or anything like it)
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#10
Quote by JoePerry4life
Do you realize the JB is a high output pickup? And you don't need a high output pickup for metal, a medium one would do just fine. And if it is a high output pup, chances are it won't do satriani very well.


What would u suggest for a new pickup then? one that could do Satriani and Dream Theater? Mo'Joe and Liquifire?
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Pedal- Dunlop Crybaby GCB-95
#11
The JB is a hot pickup, but it doesn't have the super high output sound. It still has a fair amount of dynamics. I tried a bunch of super high output pickups in my guitar, and end up putting the stock pickup back in (it's a JB). I had the D Sonic in my 7 string for a day. It was pretty nice, but I didn't get a lot of play time with it.

That progressive sound you're looking for has a lot more to do with the amp, mic'ing tricks, and post production than anything else.

Getting something hotter than the JB won't bring you closer to that sound. You might want to consider saving for a Mesa Mark series or something.

But if you really want to try something different, and I don't blame you, then pick the album you're trying to emulate and buy the pickups the player used on that album. You should be able to obtain that info with a Google search.

Oh, and buy an effects processor.
Last edited by Jam3V at Aug 17, 2009,
#12
Try a DImarzio Breed in the neck, Evolution in the bridge or maybe try getting another axe. The Schecter is good but it's not going give you thick sustain like a Les Paul style would.
#13
Quote by Jam3V
The JB is a hot pickup, but it doesn't have the super high output sound. It still has a fair amount of dynamics. I tried a bunch of super high output pickups in my guitar, and end up putting the stock pickup back in (it's a JB). I had the D Sonic in my 7 string for a day. It was pretty nice, but I didn't get a lot of play time with it.

That progressive sound you're looking for has a lot more to do with the amp, mic'ing tricks, and post production than anything else.

Getting something hotter than the JB won't bring you closer to that sound. You might want to consider saving for a Mesa Mark series or something.

But if you really want to try something different, and I don't blame you, then pick the album you're trying to emulate and buy the pickups the player used on that album. You should be able to obtain that info with a Google search.

Oh, and buy an effects processor.


What Mesa Boogie would you say i should save up for? and thanks for all the replies guys. and effects processor? (is that a pedalboard?)
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#14
If you're into the Chooch, then I'd say go for Mark Series amp. He's been using those pretty heavily for most of his career. He uses the Mark V now, I'm pretty sure.

Wikipedia is a great resource for these types of things. Whenever I like a band's tone I simply Wiki the band, and then click the members' links. Equipment is almost always a subsection, unless the band is obscure or something.
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Quote by Jam3V
If you're into the Chooch, then I'd say go for Mark Series amp. He's been using those pretty heavily for most of his career. He uses the Mark V now, I'm pretty sure.

Wikipedia is a great resource for these types of things. Whenever I like a band's tone I simply Wiki the band, and then click the members' links. Equipment is almost always a subsection, unless the band is obscure or something.


ok thanks. I will start doing that
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#16
Quote by The Snowman
If price ain't an option, go with DiMarzio's.


You're a big Petrucci fan? Go with a D-Sonic in the bridge. Same pickup he uses.

Big Satch fan? He's got some signature pickups as well, and so does Paul Gilbert, as well as Steve Vai.

I'd suggest getting an Evolution or Evolution-2 in the neck position, it's a killer pickup.


+1

This is a very good suggestion.

I used to have a Evolution in the neck and a D Sonic in the bridge, its an extremely versatile combination.

However, if price isn't a concern, look at Bare Knuckle Pickups.
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#17
Yeah, I didn't even bother suggesting BKP because they're really expensive.

I have a set of Nailbombs in my RG1527, and they're pretty much the most interesting pickups I've ever heard. Great dynamics, stay heavy, amazing response. I can't say enough good things.
#18
Quote by Jam3V
Yeah, I didn't even bother suggesting BKP because they're really expensive.

I have a set of Nailbombs in my RG1527, and they're pretty much the most interesting pickups I've ever heard. Great dynamics, stay heavy, amazing response. I can't say enough good things.


Haha

Which is why I mentioned "However, if price isn't a concern..."

Honestly I was blown away by my first BKP pickup, so much so that I had to get BKP for all my guitars. They fall under the "Last word in pickups" category.

I also agree strongly with the Mesa Mark series for the prog and clean tones.

I ALSO agree strongly with the resources available on Wikipedia. There's a wealth of band information there, but is unfortunately overlooked by many UGers.
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#19
Quote by ragingkitty
+1

This is a very good suggestion.

I used to have a Evolution in the neck and a D Sonic in the bridge, its an extremely versatile combination.

However, if price isn't a concern, look at Bare Knuckle Pickups.


Bare Knuckle Pickups? What are those? never heard of them..
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#20
D-Sonic Dimarzio and whatever other model of Dimarzio Petrucci uses. Very nice pick ups imo
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#21
Quote by Dempsinator
Bare Knuckle Pickups? What are those? never heard of them..


It's a "boutique" brand of pickups that are handmade in London England IIRC. Pretty much referred to as THE best pickups... ever.
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#22
Quote by Dempsinator
Bare Knuckle Pickups? What are those? never heard of them..


They are scatter-wound, hot rodded, PAF styled pickups.

One of the best pickup makers around. IMO pickups from DiMarzio, Seymour Duncan and EMG don't come even come close to how Bare Knuckle pups sound.

http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/

The story is that the head-honcho of BKP spoke to Seth Lover as well as having opened up and dissected a PAF 'bucker to study how it was wound, the components and the manufacturing. He bases the design and construction of his 'buckers to match how PAFs were made, such as using emmanled 42 gauge wires, unpolished magnets which reach the length of the pickup, hand winding the pickups etc.
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#23
Quote by ragingkitty
They are scatter-wound, hot rodded, PAF styled pickups.

One of the best pickup makers around. IMO pickups from DiMarzio, Seymour Duncan and EMG don't come even come close to how Bare Knuckle pups sound.

http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/

The story is that the head-honcho of BKP spoke to Seth Lover as well as having opened up and dissected a PAF 'bucker to study how it was wound, the components and the manufacturing. He bases the design and construction of his 'buckers to match how PAFs were made, such as using emmanled 42 gauge wires, unpolished magnets which reach the length of the pickup, hand winding the pickups etc.


I live in the US so would i even be able to buy some from them and which types would u suggest if i did buy a pickup?
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#24
Quote by Dempsinator
I live in the US so would i even be able to buy some from them and which types would u suggest if i did buy a pickup?


Actually Bare Knuckles is based out of Falmouth, which is close to Cornwall. Cornwall is about 1/2 to 1 hour from London I think. I didn't visit Cornwall when I was in the UK.

Yes you can get them shipped to you. I live in Asia, Malaysia to be specific, and got them shipped to me. Alternatively you can check in with Matrix Claw, he's got a source for a US distributor for Bare Knuckles. Only flip side is that you can't get any customisation done on the pickups. One of the coolest part of Bare Knuckles is the level of customisation. All my pickups are customised at some level (i.e. slightly hotter windings, pickup cover distressing, swapped magnets etc)

For the type of music you use, I'd recommend a Nailbomb in the bridge and a Cold Sweat in the neck. If you want something more aggressive, inform them that you'd like to change the Nailbomb to a ceramic magnet.

If you want a proggy sound get a Painkiller in the bridge and a Nailbomb in the neck.

Alternatively, you can always drop the head-honcho, Tim Mills, with your music styles, rig and specifics of your guitar and he'll recommend something; his recommendations are dead-on. I've ordered pickups from him just based on his recommendations 3 times, and he has delivered something to my specs without fail.

You can also look up rock monkey pickups at www.rockmonkeyguitars.com. What's cool is that the maker is a UGer and he'll give 10% off to UGers. He's a great guy and will help with any query you have. He has neodymium magnet pickups, which will have a very unique character from most pickups which use alnico or ceramic magnets.

If you want to consider US based makers, look at WCR and Wolfetone.

If you want to know more about WCR, check in with al112987, he strongly advocates WCR pups. Whereas I'm strongly biased towards Bare Knuckle Pickups.

I'll give you my list of boutique pickup makers...

Amalfitano Pickups
www.amalfitanopickups.com

Bare Knuckles
http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/

BG Pickups
http://www.norcalguitars.com
http://www.bg-pups.com/

Brandon Wound Pickups
http://www.brandonwoundpickups.com/

Bulldog Pickups
http://www.bulldogpickups.com/

Copperhead Pickups
http://www.copperheadpickups.com

Curtis Novak Guitars and Pickups
http://www.curtisnovak.com

DragonFire Guitars
http://www.dragonfireguitars.com/

Gadow Hand Wound Pickups
http://www.gadowguitars.com/gadow-hand-wound-pickups.html

GFS Pickups
http://store.guitarfetish.com/pickups.html

Harmonic Design
http://www.harmonicdesign.net/

Hanson Pickups
http://www.hansonpickups.com/

High Order Pickups
http://www.highorderpickups.com/

Iron Gear
http://www.irongear.co.uk/

James Reed Pickups
http://reedjamescustom.com/

Juicy Pickups
http://www.juicypickups.com

Joe Barden Engineering
http://www.joebarden.com

J S Morre Pickups
http://www.tonefordays.com/

Klein Pickups
http://www.kleinpickups.com/

Lollar Guitar Pickups
http://www.lollarguitars.com/

Manlius Guitar Pickups
http://www.manliusguitar.com/

Mojo Pickups
http://www.mojomusicalsupply.com/pickups.asp?id=65960&s=Custom%20Wound

Motor City Pickups
http://motorcitypickups.com/

O.C. Duff Pickups
http://www.ocduffpickups.com/

Patrick McDonald Handwound Pickups
Link unknown

Rio Grande Pickups
http://www.riograndepickups.com/

Rock Monkey
http://www.rockmonkeyguitars.com/

Rockfield Pickups
http://www.rockfieldpickups.com/

Rocketfire Pickups
http://www.1stgearmusic.com/rocketfirescatterwoundvintagesinglecoilstratpickups.aspx

Rumpelstiltskin Pickups
http://www.rumpelpickups.com/

S.K. Guitar Specialities
http://www.skguitar.com

Sheptone
http://www.sheptone.com/hum.htm

Shed Pickups
http://www.shedpickups.com

Skatterbrane
https://www.skatterbrane.com

Smit's Hand Wound Pickups
http://www.smitspickups.com/

Stan Hinesley Handwound Pickups
http://www.stanhinesleypickups.com/

Stephen Design
http://www.sdpickups.com/

Swineshead Pickups
http://www.swinesheadpickups.co.uk/

Throbak Electronics & Pickups
www.gundrymedia.typepad.com/

Timpson Music
http://www.timpsonmusic.com/html/tdm_pickups.html

Toneworks Custom Pickups
http://www.toneworks.co.uk/

Torres Engineering
http://www.torresamps.com/pickups.htm

WB Custom Pickups
http://www.wbpickups.com/

WCR
http://www.wcrguitar.com/

Witkowski Guitars
http://www.witkowskiguitars.com

Wizard Pickups Ltd
http://www.wizardpickups.co.uk

Wolfe Tone
http://www.wolfetone.com

Zhangbucker Pickups
zhangbucker@yahoo.com
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#25
it seems Petrucci uses LiquiFire neck and CrunchLab bridge
http://dimarzio.com/site/#/pickups/
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#26
Quote by Regensgeliebte
it seems Petrucci uses LiquiFire neck and CrunchLab bridge
http://dimarzio.com/site/#/pickups/


That's news to me, those are pickups released for this year I think.
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