#1
I currently have a Laguna LE122. It will be 2 years old this Christmas. I'm 13 and in a band. Our band is getting good, but not great. I feel like my current guitar isn't good enough for what I'm doing. Anyway, I heard that I could sell the guitar for around $120. My dad is out of a job. My rents would probably pay $100 and so would I. So my budget is $300 - $350. Can I get a decent guitar with a Floyd Rose or other Locking Tremelo in that price range??? Also, if I whammy a lot, does it also have to have a Locking Nut and Locking Tuners to stay in tune, or just the Locking Tremelo. Thanks!!!
#3
yea, thats a pretty good one, but u might want to change out pickups eventually, ive got a esp-ltd mh-50 and its held up great, but i changed the pickups for a seymour duncan distortion and a jazz. although if u buy another cheap guitar your just gonna want to buy another one in a few years, unless the guitar is that bad. btw, what amp do u have?
#6
I've heard of Floyd Roses on the cheaper guitar models being terrible, and wearing out fast. It's not worth all the trouble it would bring you, so you should probably avoid Floyds until you can expand your budget to $500 or more.
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I've heard of Floyd Roses on the cheaper guitar models being terrible, and wearing out fast. It's not worth all the trouble it would bring you, so you should probably avoid Floyds until you can expand your budget to $500 or more.

ive got a cheap ltd with a floyd rose and its fine, ive never had any problems with it.
#8
The new LTD's below the deluxe series have the Floyd Rose Special, which is made to the same specs as an OFR and made out of the same materials, other than a Zinc sustain block, so look into those if you want a good Floyd Rose for cheap.


Also, don't get the 30 watt Spider, get a Peavey Vypyr for the same price
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#9
@goodtimes, the sound is o.k. but i feel like i need a better guitar. idk wat it is, but i just feel more comfortable on an ESP. i mainly want a locking tremelo but since i play Metallica, AC/DC, and Van Halen, i think the ESP fits me better
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Yea definetely don't get a spider
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#12
so do u need a locking nut or not to keep the guitar in tune after whammying a lot???
#13
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so do u need a locking nut or not to keep the guitar in tune after whammying a lot???


If you are asking this question you should probably avoid a Floyd Rose guitar
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im a noob. someone answer. not give me crap

im trying to help you. There's a lot of pain that goes into Floyd Roses, that need to be seriously researched before considering getting a guitar with one.
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not at all.

this is a better one http://www.beyondeleven.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=Gotoh-floyd-rose
but i stand by my previous statement
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so do u need a locking nut or not to keep the guitar in tune after whammying a lot???


You do need a locking nut, Otherwise the guitar will go out of tune easily. And like other people said, It's hard to find a nice tremolo on a guitar for around $300. Maybe try a Jackson, They're LFR's are usually pretty decent.

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If you like your current guitar, get this. I've heard good things about Lagunas, and I'm pretty sure the trem's locking.


It's not locking, It's pretty much like vintage strat trem.

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do u mean not good or not a rip-off


I think it's a pretty decent deal, but make sure it will fit in your guitar before you buy it. Does your guitar already have a tremolo?
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#21
Try some Ibanez RG models, or ESP LTD's. Some Edge III's on the RG's are good, some are bad. Mine is starting to crap out on me, and I bought it used and have owned it for 8 months now. For all I know, it could be a few years old.

And to answer your question, typically a locking tremolo means that it locks at the bridge, and at the nut. Some good tremolo bridges that aren't floating are the Wilkinson. If you pair that up with some good locking tuners, you'll be able to whammy your heart out and still be in tune.

And please, please, please, PLEASE do not get the Spider 30 watt. Get the Peavey Vypyr 30 watt. It's fantastic amp, and I consider it the best of all the modeling amps out there.
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do u mean not good or not a rip-off

not good. go with the one i posted. much better, its on par with OFR quality
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Dont get Ibanez's RG. The Edge III's might seem nice at first, but soon enough they'll crap out on you and make string changing very hard.
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#24
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Does your guitar already have a tremolo?


yes, it has a cheap tremolo that comes with it
#25
do you really need a guitar with a trem. To be honest, unless you're going to be playing songs with it and utilising it a lot of the time, i highly advise you to not get a guitar with a trem.
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#26
Okay.

First of all I'd say stick with your guitar and upgrade your amp. You say your band is getting pretty good, so I'm going to assume you're going to start, or already are, playing gigs. In that case a 15 watt Spider III won't cut it. I'd recommend getting a B-52 AT112.

Or, if you are absolutely in dire need of getting a new guitar, I would recommend staying away from a locking trem. They are annoying. They are frustrating. They need to be researched and practiced on in order to get them to not be annoying and frustrating. Instead of getting a guitar with a locking trem, I'd look at the Ibanez RG3EXFM1.

Or, if you are in dire need of a new guitar, and for some reason absolutely need a locking trem, I would recommend an ESP MH 103 if you're going to use the trem a lot, or an Ibanez RG350DX if you're not. Don't expect incredible tuning stability from either of these though. The Edge III on the Ibanez will get worn out knife edges after extended use and abuse, and will fall out of tune after whammy use. The Floyd Rose Special on the MH 103 will hold up a little better, but is still no high class trem.
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#28
I think i found a solution... sell my current guitar. I read that the (Laguna) 322s and 422s have Wilkinson tremolos. They do not lock, but the tuners are self-locking. Reviews say that with moderate to heavy whammying, it stays in tune pretty well. I will not have to go thru the pain of Floyd Rose. I also like the feel and looks of laguna. Any last comments on my desicsion?
#29
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not good. go with the one i posted. much better, its on par with OFR quality


It also costs more then twice as much, For $60 bucks, that's about as nice as they come...

But TS, Don't buy an FR unless you have a guitar your sure it will fit in.


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yes, it has a cheap tremolo that comes with it


Just because it has a trem, doesn't mean it's the right routing for an FR, take it to a shop and let them check it out.

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I think i found a solution... sell my current guitar. I read that the (Laguna) 322s and 422s have Wilkinson tremolos. They do not lock, but the tuners are self-locking. Reviews say that with moderate to heavy whammying, it stays in tune pretty well. I will not have to go thru the pain of Floyd Rose. I also like the feel and looks of laguna. Any last comments on my desicsion?


It doesn't matter what the review says, Don't buy it expecting to go crazy on the trem unless it has locking tuners. It will go out of tune.

EDIT: I just looked at the guitar, It does have locking tuners, so it might stay in tune a little better, But that kind of tremolo is called a "Vintage Tremolo". It's the kind of trem that comes on strats. It can only be pushed down, unlike a Floyd, which is "Double-Locking" And can go both ways.

So only buy it knowing that the trem only goes one way.
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