#1
I'm looking to get a Mesa Dual Rectifier, are ENGL Fireball's good?

I want a heavy, thick, rock tone. NOT metal.

I'd boost with a TS808, It's hard to tell from youtube videos but it looks like a nice amp, not too shrilly sounding.
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#2
it's deff a metal amp.
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#3
Do you want a vintage or modern sounding amp...? Because what you describe as "heavy, thick, rock tone. NOT metal" is going in another direction from the Rectifier and Fireball.
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#4
IMO, the fireball is a better full on metal amp than a rock amp. If you really dig the ENGL tone, and want rock tones, I would look into the Blackmore or maybe the Screamer. The DRec can get some great modern rock sounds, but it's kind of apples and oranges in comparison to an ENGL as far as voicing.
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sup Derek, how's it going brudda, haven't talked to you in a while.
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sup Derek, how's it going brudda, haven't talked to you in a while.

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TS: can you name a few bands that you play so we can get an idea of the kind of tones you're looking for?
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Do you want a vintage or modern sounding amp...? Because what you describe as "heavy, thick, rock tone. NOT metal" is going in another direction from the Rectifier and Fireball.


You can boost a vintage sounding rock amp like my marshall and get a thick heavy modern rock tone out of it, same with a dual rectifier.
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#9
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You can boost a vintage sounding rock amp like my marshall and get a thick heavy modern rock tone out of it, same with a dual rectifier.
He Is Legend does it all the time

he's actualy pretty wrong imo. mesa is pretty much the definitive tone of modern rock and engls are also very modern amps.
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#10
I figured if I toned the gain down on an ENGL I could get the sound I'm looking for, but it sounds like ENGLs are just made to roar with gain so if I toned it down it would lose a lot of body
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#11
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I figured if I toned the gain down on an ENGL I could get the sound I'm looking for, but it sounds like ENGLs are just made to roar with gain so if I toned it down it would lose a lot of body

if you're talking about the Fball or Pball, yeah, they are basically aimed at the metal genres. A Blackmore or Screamer could pull off a great rock tone without a problem though, and a Blackmore can also take you into metal if your tastes change.
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#12
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if you're talking about the Fball or Pball, yeah, they are basically aimed at the metal genres. A Blackmore or Screamer could pull off a great rock tone without a problem though, and a Blackmore can also take you into metal if your tastes change.

agreed.

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#13
As said above, Blackmores are sexy
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#14
I looked at the screamer, and I've gotta say... wowwee I'm impressed. I'd like to play one of those little buggers.

ENGL doesn't seem to too widely distributed around the US, where should I look for one?

none on craigslist, none on ebay *if I were to but it*
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Big Baby Taylor Acoustic
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#15
musicians friend recently picked them up. rocksolid amps has been the only us distributor for a while.
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#16
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I'm looking to get a Mesa Dual Rectifier, are ENGL Fireball's good?

I want a heavy, thick, rock tone. NOT metal.

I'd boost with a TS808, It's hard to tell from youtube videos but it looks like a nice amp, not too shrilly sounding.


You don't want a metal tone yet you're gonna boost a fireball? Are you insane?

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I looked at the screamer, and I've gotta say... wowwee I'm impressed. I'd like to play one of those little buggers.

ENGL doesn't seem to too widely distributed around the US, where should I look for one?

none on craigslist, none on ebay *if I were to but it*



I was impressed when I played the screamer, great modern rock tone. I might be getting one next year sometime, I just need to get enough money for it and a boost.

There's a good demo of what it does here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVKuZiFogCQ&feature=related
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Why don't you just boost your JCM800 with the TS808?


marshall is pretty close to what I want, but too thin and brittle sounding. the screamer (I think) and the dual rectifier (I know) just have warmer overdrives
Mesa Single Rectifier
Marshall 1960A vintage
Rg3exfm1 w/ EMG 85/81
Big Baby Taylor Acoustic
Ibanez TS808