#1
hey guys, im learning constructing minor and major chords and im getting pretty confused. so major chords are made out of a root note, a major 3rd and a perfect 5th.
So for c major, i get the three notes C, E, and G. But my problem is that isnt a c major chord played with the three notes C, E, and C? why is this?

edit: im realizing this problem might be for every traid ?? why is the damn D chord D-F-A, but when i play a D chord its F# - D - A? why are they all different? please help me out, im sooo lost right now
Last edited by Loldemonwar at Aug 17, 2009,
#2
A C major triad is indeed C, E and G.
C, E and C would just be a a C major diad with an octave on top.
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#3
Chord is a very loose term because there are so many variations. A chord can have many different notes but the standard chord i guess would be the root, 3rd, 5th and octave. But not limited to that.
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#4
whoa. where are you seeing that a D chord is F# D A?

A D chord is D F A in the key of C major. It is a Dm chord.

For that matter where are you seeing a C major chord as only C and E?

A chord is three or more notes played at the same time. Usually that will take form of a triad consisting of stacked thirds (root, third, fifth (a third above a third)). So yes, C E G is a C major chord.
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#5
im using Zeguitarist's lessons to try to understand this.

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/columns/the_guide_to/the_ultimate_guide_to_guitar_chapter_ii_3_chords_-_basic_chord_progressions.html

he says The C Major chord is constructed of the notes C, E and G. the problem im having is that when i play a C major chord, isnt it made out of C E C?
Last edited by Loldemonwar at Aug 17, 2009,
#6
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edit: im realizing this problem might be for every traid ?? why is the damn D chord D-F-A, but when i play a D chord its F# - D - A? why are they all different? please help me out, im sooo lost right now


F is a minor third above D, so D F A is a D minor triad.

D F# A is a D major triad (F# is a major third above D).
#7
A D major chord consists of the notes D F# and A.
A C major chord consists of the notes C E and G.
C and E on their own is called a C major diad because the lack of a fifth. Even though it isn't technically a chord, it still has the root and the major third which is the main components of a major chord.
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#8
You need to realize that the C-major scale is built from a certain pattern.

C - D - E - F - G - A - B - C

The intervals between the notes are (T=Tone, ST=Semi tone): T-T-ST-T-T-T-ST (Also known as the Ionian mode, but it's not relevant in your case)

So if you start at D instead C, still keeping the same intervals between the notes you have:

D - E - F# - G - A - B - C - D

Root: D
Major third: F#
Perfect fifth: A

Never forget the interval: T-T-ST-T-T-T-ST (The Ionian mode also known as the major scale)

It hope this explaination is easily understood.
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#9
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im using Zeguitarist's lessons to try to understand this.

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/columns/the_guide_to/the_ultimate_guide_to_guitar_chapter_ii_3_chords_-_basic_chord_progressions.html

he says The C Major chord is constructed of the notes C, E and G. the problem im having is that when i play a C major chord, isnt it made out of C E C?


What do you mean by "made out of"? Where are you getting that? The C major triad contains the notes C E G.
#10
thanks a lott for the replies guys. i know how to construct the traid and get the notes, but i dont really understand why it works that way. you see, lets say i constructed the c major traid,i get the notes C E G, but when i play a c major chord on guitar, the notes used are C - E - C. im sorta getting it now, but that c major part is still confusing me a lot.
#11
when i said made out of i meant when i play a c major chord, the notes involved are C E and C but on a c major traid their C E G
#12
Could you tab out this C major chord you are talking about?
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#14
The notes you are refering to are the notes you are fretting while playing a C major chord. You are forgetting that you are also playing the open strings g and e.

So the most common open C major chord is C-E-G-C-E when you are strumming. It is okay to repeat notes while forming chords on the guitar.
#15
It seems your playing these chords on your guitar, the notes in a chord can be any order, E G C E G C is a C chord, as is C E G C E G
#16
A C major chord does not only have the notes C E C.
For example here's an open C chord of the 3rd fret of the A string:
E ---0---
B ---1---
G ---0---
D ---2---
A ---3---
E ---x---

The notes starting on the A string are C, E, G, C, E.

On the 8th fret of the E string:
E ---8
B ---8
G ---9
D ---10
A ---10
E ---8

C, G, C, E, G, C.


I'm not sure where you're seeing C chords with only C E C, but I can guarantee you if the chord only contains those two notes it is not a C chord.

EDIT: Beaten to the punch >_>
#17
As the others suggested you are most likely playing an open C chord, which contains a G. If not you are playing a C major diad with an added octav on top.
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#18
oh ya, ****, sorry about that, forgot about the open strings. thanks for a bunch for the replies. so is a constructed c major chord with the root note, major third, and perfect 5th always going to be just C E G, or can it also be C E G C and C E G C E?
#19
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oh ya, ****, sorry about that, forgot about the open strings. thanks for a bunch for the replies. so is a constructed c major chord with the root note, major third, and perfect 5th always going to be just C E G, or can it also be C E G C and C E G C E?


The order of the notes other than the the bass makes no difference.
#20
As long as it contains those notes it's a C chord. On guitar you'd usually double some notes to utilize more strings.
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#21
Yes, it doesn't matter if there are two or three Cs in the chord voicing as long as you only use C, E and G when playing your C major chord.

Check out the CAGED chord theory.
#22
ah, thanks so much everybody, i got such a head ache from this. damn, i suck at theory lol, thanks a lot guys!