#1
People have been saying a good bolt-on neck will give as much sustain as any set or neck-thru necks. Those bolt-on can only be found on really high quality guitars which cost over a grand. So, what exactly make them better than the "regular" bolt-on? Is it the contact surface or is it the quality of the screw holes? Maybe they do some special treatment to the neck pocket area on higher range guitars?

I opened up one Encore:ish guitar and didn't find the neck joint to be so bad. Still the guitar sucks sustain like there's no tomorrow. I know the body and neck wood also play a big role in this but still...
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#2
They're crafted better, there is more wood on wood contact, no wiggling, no paint.

Perry Ormsby does a test on his guitars, where he'll put the neck in the pocket, and is practically able to lift the guitar by the neck (Without glue or bolts holding the neck in place). The friction caused by the wood being so close to the other wood (Hope that makes sense) keeps the neck from falling out.

That's a good neck.
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#3
idk, i get pretty good sustain out of my guitar and it's a $300 bolt-on.
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#4
Quote by randomhero93
idk, i get pretty good sustain out of my guitar and it's a $300 bolt-on.


Perhaps you just think its good sustain....maybe?
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#5
Other parts of the guitar change the amount of sustain also. The angle from the nut to the tuner is also important. The high the angle the more sustain. This is a big reason why gibson has such a high angle. Now why doesn't fender? Fender uses a trem system on most of the guitars, and because of this they want to decrease the angle to keep the guitar more intune. BUt if you notice they do increase the angle on the b and e string to help sustain.
#6
Quote by Baby Joel
They're crafted better, there is more wood on wood contact, no wiggling, no paint.

Perry Ormsby does a test on his guitars, where he'll put the neck in the pocket, and is practically able to lift the guitar by the neck (Without glue or bolts holding the neck in place). The friction caused by the wood being so close to the other wood (Hope that makes sense) keeps the neck from falling out.

That's a good neck.

i could do that with my guitar. When i took off the neck to see if it was legit i had to pratically wrench it off.
#7
Quote by Baby Joel
They're crafted better, there is more wood on wood contact, no wiggling, no paint.

Perry Ormsby does a test on his guitars, where he'll put the neck in the pocket, and is practically able to lift the guitar by the neck (Without glue or bolts holding the neck in place). The friction caused by the wood being so close to the other wood (Hope that makes sense) keeps the neck from falling out.

That's a good neck.


Guess that what the guitar i was taking apart guitar lack. The neck just falls off without the bolts.

Anybody know how well Warmoth body and neck fit into each other?
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ESP LTD Deluxe H-1001
ESP LTD Deluxe Viper-1000 STBC
ESP Edwards E-EX-100STD
Warmoth Paulcaster "Tiger"
Tanglewood TW170 AS
Vox Tonelab ST
Blackstar HT-1R


#8
Quote by joey arce
Other parts of the guitar change the amount of sustain also. The angle from the nut to the tuner is also important. The high the angle the more sustain. This is a big reason why gibson has such a high angle. Now why doesn't fender? Fender uses a trem system on most of the guitars, and because of this they want to decrease the angle to keep the guitar more intune. BUt if you notice they do increase the angle on the b and e string to help sustain.

No, I'm pretty sure it's because it was cheaper and easier to make. That's what Leo Fender was all about: making the best guitars for the least cost to him.
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#9
Quote by joey arce
Other parts of the guitar change the amount of sustain also. The angle from the nut to the tuner is also important. The high the angle the more sustain. This is a big reason why gibson has such a high angle. Now why doesn't fender? Fender uses a trem system on most of the guitars, and because of this they want to decrease the angle to keep the guitar more intune. BUt if you notice they do increase the angle on the b and e string to help sustain.

It's not so much about being in tune as it is about action.



As for what makes a good bolt-on: strength which comes from a tight fit.
#10
Tightness, that's all their is to it as far as bolt-ons and sustain/tone go.
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