#1
And it was awful. I ab'd a 75 it next to the III 75 and the dirty sounds are even worse. More fizz, less clarity and less punch. The clean channels were surprisingly much better than the III but seeing as how the dirty sounds are so bad, it's completely unusable IMO. I brought my Mosferatu to try through it and it still takes pedals like ****. The FX sounded about the same, the tuner's even less accurate and the presets were complete ****. There's this one "alien" preset. It was absolute pure noise and the regular presets weren't much better.

I am absolutely dissapoint.
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what did you expect? its a cheap digital modeling amp.
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what did you expect? its a cheap digital modeling amp.


Yea, but I was expecting an improvement over the III. I just tried it for teh lulz.
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#6



I was hoping they'd take a lesson or two from the Vetta handbook.

Even the Flextone handbook would have been nice.
#7
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Well was soon as you said Spider we all knew it was crap.


Much as I dislike Spider IIIs, you should play one before you pass judgement.
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Well was soon as you said Spider we all knew it was crap.


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Much as I dislike Spider IIIs, you should play one before you pass judgement.

i've owned 2. i can say they're crap as much as i want to. lol
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i've owned 2. i can say they're crap as much as i want to. lol


now if you think they're crap... why did you buy two may I ask?
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#11
seems the spiders are digressing... giving line 6 a bit of a bad name
oh well, doesn't really effect me
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#12
spider valve 112s are now $399. they arent half bad. yea the IVs are pretty bad...
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spider valve 112s are now $399. they arent half bad. yea the IVs are pretty bad...


I'd rather go for a used Flextone if my budget was that low. And on a side note, the new MGs really aren't all that bad. I was quite surprised. The Spiders still suffer from the problem when the volume goes above 9:00.
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meh, id rather have a miller lite than either. /spamming


Ah yes. The refreshing taste of triple hops. I still wouldn't recommend any amps mentioned in this thread other than the Flextone. And I'll recommend many other amps before that.
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Ah yes. The refreshing taste of triple hops.

im 12, what is this ???
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i never knew there was a Spider IV until i got back to UG a couple of hours ago.
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i never knew there was a Spider IV until i got back to UG a couple of hours ago.


It just came out this week. I would recommend avoiding it. I guess you could try it once just so you're opinion on its suckage becomes valid but eh. I tried it with a Fender Nashville Tele and American Standard Strat, Gibson Les Paul Standard, Danelectro something, Dean VMNT and a PRS Custom 24.
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#18
The thing about Spiders is at bedroom levels they sound alright... I found a pretty good setting on mine for practice. Then, the amp I play through at my guitar lessons is the exact same, but I have to turn it up a lot louder, and it sounds like complete dog poop. I know a guy who actually gigs with the 75 watt Spider III....
#21
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The thing about Spiders is at bedroom levels they sound alright... I found a pretty good setting on mine for practice. Then, the amp I play through at my guitar lessons is the exact same, but I have to turn it up a lot louder, and it sounds like complete dog poop. I know a guy who actually gigs with the 75 watt Spider III....


I see guys with Spiders all the time. They tend to be teenage kids who play some form of metal that they think is the only genre anyone should listen too. I actually found during band practice today that the MG I bring when I don't want to carry my DeVille. doesn't sound that bad when cranked, much better than using the distortion channel.
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#22
Not really surprising that there wasnt actual tone improvement over the older models. As they sell so well and is such a profit maker for line6 they probably dont really see the need for improvement. Make it look slightly different, add a few settings, make it cheaper from a business standpoint is improvement. Its like when you buy something at the grocery store and it has a big label "new and improved" usually means same size box with less product inside.
#23
Yes, ban Alf! Is this the start of an era?

No, on a serious, less vinegar-water doucheness, matter. I feel that Line 6 should be able to provide beginners with crappy amplifiers, along with Marshall and Fender.
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Quote by mmolteratx
I see guys with Spiders all the time. They tend to be teenage kids who play some form of metal that they think is the only genre anyone should listen too. I actually found during band practice today that the MG I bring when I don't want to carry my DeVille. doesn't sound that bad when cranked, much better than using the distortion channel.


That's funny, because the guy I was talking about is around my age (17, or maybe a little older) and plays in a crossover thrash band.
#25
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Yes, ban Alf! Is this the start of an era?

No, on a serious, less vinegar-water doucheness, matter. I feel that Line 6 should be able to provide beginners with crappy amplifiers, along with Marshall and Fender.


Eh, the new MGs actually aren't too bad, a huge step up from the previous MGs. They've eliminated some of the buzzy qualities in the old ones. The Frontman series is terrible though.
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#26
Meh, I thought the sound clips sounded better than the III, but I haven't tried it in person.
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Eh, the new MGs actually aren't too bad, a huge step up from the previous MGs. They've eliminated some of the buzzy qualities in the old ones. The Frontman series is terrible though.


Frontman gets a bad rep. I did a show friday with my FM 100, and it was great. We opened for a Local band thats on the up and up. There freaking great (Opening for Tantric on the 30th here in San Angelo. The lead Gutarist plays through an old Marshall VS and the Rythem dude runs a 6505. One of them asked what I was using to make my tone with, and they were both impressed.

Granted, I only use he clean channel with an OD and a Sovtek Big Muff. But dont say that FM play like ****e and dont gig well if havent giged with them. I'll upgrade at some point, when I have funny money. But everytime I gig with that stack, I get compliments from other gutarists, why should I switch?

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On point, spiders are spiders. If you hate them, you hate them. I gigged once with one, and that was enough. If you think a FM is on the Spider's level on stage your freaking dreamin, its so far above it. The spiders are not gigging amps, my Frontman does just fine for now, so much better than my old spider.
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#29
Ok let's phrase it like this;
You're giging and you have a Spider IV, and 99.98% of the audience is populated with screaming teens that have NO ear for tone, and guess what? It's going to be easyer then flipping through pedals and dancing like a tap dancer to get your sound.

Notice i said sound and not tone, 99.98% of the crowd won't really hear the differance of a Spider IV and a Mesa Single Recto...

Don't forget, these amps were made to give out many effects with sound that won't really make people go "Hey check out THAT guy, he's got a Spider and not a tube amp"
and cost an fortune. It's just something to please the crowd, well 99.98% of it.

Though there is the Marshall MG thing, 99.9999% of the people who see the Marshall script logo will go "Man that guy's cool, he's got a Marshall amp"
The rest will go "Man that guy's a poser with a crap tone"

Now if i had a small buget and i was homeless and had to get an amp loud enough unmiced, i would get a Frontman, or MG since i woulden't be able to afford a high end tube amp

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#30
Are they doing a valve version of the IV? I'm just interested cos this will mean the price of the 3 drops.

Some of the sounds you could dial into the spider 3 were great. Plus you can get the floorboard which is hella cheaper than buying a midi system but does the same job.
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#31
If these are out in the U.S. now means they should be shipping to Canada soon, we'll have to try sell through our Spider III stock in the coming weeks than, thanks for the heads up
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#32
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I see guys with Spiders all the time. They tend to be teenage kids who play some form of metal that they think is the only genre anyone should listen too. I actually found during band practice today that the MG I bring when I don't want to carry my DeVille. doesn't sound that bad when cranked, much better than using the distortion channel.


yep. there has never been a poser kid that i've met, that when on the subject of amps, didn't say "i have a ____ watt marshall (interchangable with line 6)". of course i never bother asking which specific amp they have, its a given. and in one instance, i mentioned that i have an 80 watt marshall, a kid was like "that doesn't exist"

on topic though, i really do want to try one out because the clips sounded better than the spider III, but i dont know
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#33
Too bad they didn't put some vetta settings, I guess the processor is not any better then. I was not expecting it to be much better, they need to have a cheap amp that sounds crap so they can justify the price of their vetta. I am sure a big part of the problem at higher volumes is the crappy "celestion" speakers with those tiny little magnets.
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#34
I'm actually a bit disappointed.

The demo video posted up in this very section looked promising, and I was hoping the bandwagon would stop if it was decent, not the Spider bandwagon, the Line 6 bandwagon.
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Frontman gets a bad rep. I did a show friday with my FM 100, and it was great. We opened for a Local band thats on the up and up. There freaking great (Opening for Tantric on the 30th here in San Angelo. The lead Gutarist plays through an old Marshall VS and the Rythem dude runs a 6505. One of them asked what I was using to make my tone with, and they were both impressed.

Granted, I only use he clean channel with an OD and a Sovtek Big Muff. But dont say that FM play like ****e and dont gig well if havent giged with them. I'll upgrade at some point, when I have funny money. But everytime I gig with that stack, I get compliments from other gutarists, why should I switch?

/rant

On point, spiders are spiders. If you hate them, you hate them. I gigged once with one, and that was enough. If you think a FM is on the Spider's level on stage your freaking dreamin, its so far above it. The spiders are not gigging amps, my Frontman does just fine for now, so much better than my old spider.


I own a Frontman, it was my brother's amp at one point. It sounds worse than the MG on the dirty channel and whenever I try using my Zendrive or Mosferatu you get the same buzzy little tone with some added harmonics. And I never said that they didn't gig well. You can get away with a much worse sounding amp live so practically anything that can cut through is giggable, I just wouldn't enjoy the experience near as much.
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