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Today I was nursing a hangover and was quite engrossed in a documentary about the ocean floor.
And it got me to thinking, are we spending too much time focused on space travel, when we have so much left of our own world left unexplored.
I mean we have sent hundreds of men into space, but only two have ever been to the bottom of the worlds deepest trench.
Not only the oceans hold a multitude of undiscovered life and phenomena, but also caves and jungles.
Thoughts opinions?
#3
You have an excellent point.

...Where do we go from here?
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#4
People have actually made it to the deepest level of the bottom of the ocean?

Are you sure?


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You have an excellent point.

...Where do we go from here?

The planet is a gunboat in a sea of fear.
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People have actually made it to the deepest level of the bottom of the ocean?

Are you sure?

I'm starting to think he might be accidentally referring to a work of fiction.
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People have actually made it to the deepest level of the bottom of the ocean?

Are you sure?


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#11
Black holes are ****ing brutal, space ****s on the ocean!
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#12
It said in the docco that a whale's body could sustain a micro-ecosystem of life (some specific to dead whales) for 100 years, it may be just me but that's amazing.
#13
There is probably a bigger chance that there is more interesting stuff on other planets than our oceans.

EDIT: and I base my knowledge on, absolutely nothing.
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Well I've got it on good authority that by the year 3000 we'll all be living underwater.
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#15
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We still explore those areas to a great extent. I do enjoy the idea of exploring our planet first, although I also enjoy the idea of there still being some mystery about it.


Agreed, especially the ´mystery´ part. It´s much more fun if some stuff stays a mystery. It would be the same with bigfoot, if someone found him and found out it is actually a misfigured monkey/bear. The whole ´Ooooh Bigfoot!´ would be gone.
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Well I've got it on good authority that by the year 3000 we'll all be living underwater.

Been talking to the merfolk people eh? Well I've been talking to the Borg and they say we're going to live in space!
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#17
The ocean floor might have undiscovered possibilities, but unless we evolve to breathe underwater, the increasing population on this planet is eventually going tom force us off it.

So for the eventual (say, a few hundred or so years) future, we need to explore space and all it's opportunities.
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Quote by Hybrid_Xer0
There is probably a bigger chance that there is more interesting stuff on other planets than our oceans.

EDIT: and I base my knowledge on, absolutely nothing.


Depends on how you define 'interesting'.
We may see other planets as more interesting than the sea on our own planet because we can go and look at the sea any time we want to, but if unknowns are discovered in the sea, then that, in my opinion, is just as interesting as discovering unknowns on other planets.
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What really interests me is the notion of giant anacondas. It is known that anacondas don't stop growing, and it is unknown how long they can live for. The only reason we haven't seen these giant snakes is because, when that deep in the Amazon, you're struggling to carry and transport your provisions for survival, let alone even the carcass or even skin of a 100ft snake.

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I'm going to hurt you for that reference
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Well I've got it on good authority that by the year 3000 we'll all be living underwater.

More like by the year 2012!
We will have evolved into the next stage of humanity and we will grow gills thus be able to live under water.
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Been talking to the merfolk people eh? Well I've been talking to the Borg and they say we're going to live in space!

Borg don't talk. They assimilate. Resistance is futile.
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Well I've got it on good authority that by the year 3000 we'll all be living underwater.


Tirple breasted women will swim around town, totally naked.

And your great great great granddaughter? She's pretty fine.

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Depends on how you define 'interesting'.
We may see other planets as more interesting than the sea on our own planet because we can go and look at the sea any time we want to, but if unknowns are discovered in the sea, then that, in my opinion, is just as interesting as discovering unknowns on other planets.


Aye, I always found the sea to be very interesting. Crazy stuff is always found, like giant squids, prehistoric sharks and loch ness monsters other stuff.

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What really interests me is the notion of giant anacondas. It is known that anacondas don't stop growing, and it is unknown how long they can live for. The only reason we haven't seen these giant snakes is because, when that deep in the Amazon, you're struggling to carry and transport your provisions for survival, let alone even the carcass or even skin of a 100ft snake.


Plus you bet a snake that big would have troubles manovuering in the jungle and have bigger problems with gravity and stuff. No, my friend, the sea is where it's at!

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#24
The Ocean first, as it's awesome, and it's close and easier. Than we can try to explore space, knowing what we have here. We should also develop an engine that fuels itself by working (using turbines powered by the engines maybe?) which would make space travel that much easier.
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Well I've got it on good authority that by the year 3000 we'll all be living underwater.


though it makes me feel bad that I understood the reference.

Also, the sea tends to interest me a bit more than space.
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#26
the deep ocean is scary. ****ing scary.

it terrifies me.

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Depends on how you define 'interesting'.
We may see other planets as more interesting than the sea on our own planet because we can go and look at the sea any time we want to, but if unknowns are discovered in the sea, then that, in my opinion, is just as interesting as discovering unknowns on other planets.

True.
I guess space is more "challenging" to mankind because space is x1000etc...etc bigger so harder to explore. Also spaceships>>>>>>>>>>>boats/subs etc.
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huge pressure. i dont know, if theres void in space, is there any pressure?

There's none. That's sort of the definition.
Here on earth we have 1 atmosphere, out there we have 0 atmosphere.
But that's also why it's harder to send people to the bottom of the ocean rather than space. In space, you simply have to deal with vacuum, ie, 0 atmospheres.
On the bottom of the ocean, the pressure is over 1000 times the pressure at sea level.
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Plus you bet a snake that big would have troubles manovuering in the jungle and have bigger problems with gravity and stuff. No, my friend, the sea is where it's at!


Anacondas are highly, highly aquatic. Plus I got numbers mixed up, 40ft is a "giant anaconda," although none over 30ft have been captured.
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Anacondas are highly, highly aquatic. Plus I got numbers mixed up, 40ft is a "giant anaconda"


Well I got all my knowledge from the Anaconda movies. From what I've learned they're highly agressive and their diet consists mainly of reasonably attractive people and amazonian natives. They'll do their best to stay away from Jennifer lopez. Just like the rest of us.
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#32
gah. do not bring snakes into this. snakes+water are like my biggest fears.
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Well I got all my knowledge from the Anaconda movies. From what I've learned they're highly agressive and their diet consists mainly of reasonably attractive people and amazonian natives. They'll do their best to stay away from Jennifer lopez. Just like the rest of us.




I have a pretty good book about the world's mysteries, and giant serpents, monsters of lakes and lochs, that kind of thing is dealt with. Interesting stuff, by a man named Arthur C. Clarke.

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gah. do not bring snakes into this. snakes+water are like my biggest fears.


Why snakes?
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I have a pretty good book about the world's mysteries, and giant serpents, monsters of lakes and lochs, that kind of thing is dealt with. Interesting stuff, by a man named Arthur C. Clarke.


Why snakes?


ooh i love mysteries.

because snakes are ugly, disgusting, scary and ugly. not to mention they are ugly.
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an astrophysicist an marine biologist are not the same thing just because they are both scientists. Space exploration is also kind of a necessity. We need to be able to colonise on other planets within the next several thousand years as this one is probably going to die soon. We all have to start somewhere don't we.
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Anacondas are highly, highly aquatic. Plus I got numbers mixed up, 40ft is a "giant anaconda," although none over 30ft have been captured.


Another post party documentary; hunting giant snakes through caves file chest high with guano (bat ****) to catch giant snakes, I think they found a 23 foot one and it was the longest he'd found in the wild.
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ooh i love mysteries.

because snakes are ugly, disgusting, scary and ugly. not to mention they are ugly.


Scary? Barely. More often than not they'll try and stay as far away from you as possible.

Ugly? Many snakes have fantastic colouration and patterns:

http://www.filecluster.com/screenshots/87589.jpg

I put it in a URL in case you didn't want to see it.

Disgusting? Not in my opinion.
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ooh i love mysteries.

because snakes are ugly, disgusting, scary and ugly. not to mention they are ugly.
No, anglerfish are ugly (deepsea fish). Compared to those, snakes appear as fuzzy, cute teddybears.
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I have a pretty good book about the world's mysteries, and giant serpents, monsters of lakes and lochs, that kind of thing is dealt with. Interesting stuff, by a man named Arthur C. Clarke.


Yeah I've heard of him

What about the human mind? That's quite a mystery too.

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ooh i love mysteries.

because snakes are ugly, disgusting, scary and ugly. not to mention they are ugly.


I was at universeum the other day and fondled a snake quite heavily. It seemed to like me I gathered as it was making it's way in through my shirt.

Moral of the story: Snakes are awesome.
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