#1
Ignore the title of thread. xD

So anyways, it's another time where a UGer needs a new amp. I'd like the amp to be able to go from good cleans to a bit of a metal tone. I don't mind having to use pedals to boost it. I'm in Toronto area and buying used is alright for me.

I think I'm getting around 1k CAD so thats like, 900USD. I'm a bedroom player for now, so combos are what I have in mind. Don't mind having a small head + 2x12 or something similar thought.

Any suggestions that can help? I can save up more, since my birthday is coming, waves of cash is on its way!
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#2
ENGL Fireball -> not sure of the price
Krank Rev Jr Pro -> has good cleans and a lot of metal in its tone. However you need to play around with the sweep knob and learn how to EQ to get the most out of this amp.
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#3
The fireball is out of my price range, but the rev seems nice. Anything else? What about a more hard rock based amp? I figure I'll just boost it with a screamer or something similar.
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#4
Blackstar Ht-5, you could look at the Series One 45, but might be out of your price range

Used 6505+?

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#5
Well the used market for me is pretty limited. I can't drive anywhere really. But around how much would a used 6505+ cost?
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#6
If its only bedroom playing, get a Blackstar HT-5 and a nice 2x12 cab.
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If its only bedroom playing, get a Blackstar HT-5 and a nice 2x12 cab.


How does the Ht-5 through 2x12 Avatar sound?
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#8
it may be bedroom playing, but he currently has a 100W Solid State amp.
so you can easily handle a 30-40 Watt Tube...

With that budget, sky is the limit really...

Try
Fender Hot Rod Deluxe $700 New, $500 Used
Peavey Classic 30 $600 new, $400 used

Either amp has great cleans, and medium Overdrive.
Great for blues / classic rock / OLD metal like Black Sabbath.
Just add a distortion pedal to either one and you've got great metal tone.

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#9
Quote by jonmo1
it may be bedroom playing, but he currently has a 100W Solid State amp.
so you can easily handle a 30-40 Watt Tube...

With that budget, sky is the limit really...

Try
Fender Hot Rod Deluxe $700 New, $500 Used
Peavey Classic 30 $600 new, $400 used

Either amp has great cleans, and medium Overdrive.
Great for blues / classic rock / OLD metal like Black Sabbath.
Just add a distortion pedal to either one and you've got great metal tone.


Haha, nah, TB225 is only 50 watts.

Which is better though? The classic looks like a clone of the Hot Rod.
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#10
Quote by jonmo1
it may be bedroom playing, but he currently has a 100W Solid State amp.
so you can easily handle a 30-40 Watt Tube...

With that budget, sky is the limit really...
Try
Fender Hot Rod Deluxe $700 New, $500 Used
Peavey Classic 30 $600 new, $400 used

Either amp has great cleans, and medium Overdrive.
Great for blues / classic rock / OLD metal like Black Sabbath.
Just add a distortion pedal to either one and you've got great metal tone.
No.

I imagine a Traynor (especially in Canada) + an OD would do everything you need.

Which is better though? The classic looks like a clone of the Hot Rod.
Well, I wouldn't go for either with what you want. And the Classic is a clone of the AC30.
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#11
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Haha, nah, TB225 is only 50 watts.

Which is better though? The classic looks like a clone of the Hot Rod.


I thought I saw in my google search that it is 100W. Perhaps because it's a 2X12, so it's 50X50...

anyway, personally I think the Fender is better.
Has better cleans (duh!, it's a Fender), and a few more features.

But it's not THAT much better...The Classic 30 is still a GREAT amp.

I got the Classic 30 because of budget limits. Got it new for only $400, some kind of guitar center sale...

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#12
There are a couple marshall dsl heads, traynor ycv amps, vk's and crate vc tube amps on your craigslist.

Also a HT-5 is a great bedroom players amp. It sounds very good through closed back cabs that have decent speakers in them.
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#13
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How does the Ht-5 through 2x12 Avatar sound?


Really good. As Gregs1020 said, make sure to get a closed back cab, as the HT-5 needs the extra bottom end. Don't skimp on the speakers either.
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#14
All right, so I've looked around Traynors, and the Traynor YCV50 seems pretty good. The warrenty is amazing, I get to replace it even if it dies? O:

Anyone have experience with these amps?
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#15
They apparently are fantastic amps. A lot of people say they have Marshall crunch, and Fender cleans. I personally have never tried them because there are no stores around me that stock them, but they are definitely worth a try.

You would probably need an overdrive to boost them into metal, but if your budget is 1000CAD that shouldn't really be a problem at all.
#16
Awesome, I'd add that to my GAS list then. Thanks guys!

Does anyone know if Long and McQuade accepts trades or not? I don't see the point of having a toneblaster take up space if I have a better amp. Anyone know around how much I can get for it? It's in quite good condition.

I really can't wait til I can play through a good amp again. I'm on holiday and I have to bear with a Marshall MG 15 watt while I'm here. The overdrive channel is pure noise and feedback and the clean's are dull.
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#17
You could sell it for $200 and buy a niec overdrive pedal. In my experience, trading gear to stores is a complete rip off. Just sell it in the classifieds.
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You could sell it for $200 and buy a niec overdrive pedal. In my experience, trading gear to stores is a complete rip off. Just sell it in the classifieds.


I'll talk to Long and McQuade when I get back to see how it'd be.

Is there a lot of difference between a YCV50 and YCV40? I'm seeing a lot of YCV40s in my Craigslist. So if in terms of tone there isn't much difference then I might go for that instead. The money saved could always go for more gear. Like a new axe or something. But that's in another thread.
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#19
I second the Traynor idea. I've played the YCV 40 and 50 and from what I remember the 40 is more vintage voiced and the 50 is more modern voiced (especially the Blue) so if you want to get more metal the 50 is the way to go. There is more of a difference than just the 10 watts.

A lot of the other amps recommended so far are good too. If you want to learn more about the Traynors post in the Only Traynor thread which can be found in the 'List of Banned threads and good ones' Sticky. Forsaknazrael (UG'r) may have more insite for you as well.

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#20
I'll third the Traynor. I've had the YCV40 Blue on my GAS list for a while now. It's got a very Marshall-y voiced OD.
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#21
Well, I'll take up the 40watt version then. I don't think I have the need for 50 watts. hehe
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#22
Stratman ^ there is no YCV40 Blue but you are right on the Marshally OD. Fender type cleans on most all Traynors too. Very Sparkly

Edit: TS - don't make a decision based on a 10 w difference. You won't hear a difference volume wise. Look at the other feature differences like speaker and better tubes when making a decision like this.


Here is a quick run down.

YCV 40 black tolex
3 - 12AX7s
2 - 6L6s
2 - 5881 rectifiers?
Celestion Red Lable

YCV 40WR sweet red wine
same but Celestion Vintage 30

YCV50 Blue blue
3 premium Russian 12AX7s
dual triode
2 Mullard EL34
2 5881s
Celestion Vintage 30

YCS 50 black
15w A/50w AB switchable
Vintage 30s
better reverb tank
seperate EQ for channels
more features
Brit - US channel voicing (not sure how well this works actually)
Modern and Scoop switch (ditto)
Master Volume

YCS90
black with tan grill cloth (I've played this one too)
similar to 50 except
20w A/90w AB switchable
Celestion G12 Century speakers
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Stratman ^ there is no YCV40 Blue but you are right on the Marshally OD. Fender type cleans on most all Traynors too. Very Sparkly



I meant the 50. I've been sick the past couple days. Leave me alone
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#25
Oh jeez, now your making me go over what I want repeatly. Damn you 311ZOSOVHJH ):

On the other hand, thanks for all the input and info you've given me, I appreciate it.
I'll just wait til I get back to Canada then play the YCS and YCVs and decide which one I like more.

Thanks to everyone else that have posted and helped me here too. Await my NAD!
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