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#9
But Tool has best ever lyrics doood.
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#10
Quote by teegman
It's about time that b-grade hack singers like James Hetfield, Michael Akerfeldt and Maynard James Keenan started heavily using autotune. This won't help their god-awful lyrics unfortunately.





Boy, Autotune can really help an artist out. Now, you don't have to be able to write music OR sing to be famous.
#12
Quote by mulletboy14




Boy, Autotune can really help an artist out. Now, you don't have to be able to write music OR sing to be famous.

Most of the time you just have to have an arse that is more famous than yourself.
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#15
Autotune one of the worst atrocities ever invented. if you can add effects to ur vocals and make it enhance the music (delays, distortions w/e) then by all means do it. But to synthetically keep you in tune coz you cant sing for jack ****, and make horrible akon noises is like openly saying 'im not a singer, im merely posing'

Autotune users need to die off starvation.
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#18
Quote by MonsterOfRock
Autotune one of the worst atrocities ever invented. if you can add effects to ur vocals and make it enhance the music (delays, distortions w/e) then by all means do it. But to synthetically keep you in tune coz you cant sing for jack ****, and make horrible akon noises is like openly saying 'im not a singer, im merely posing'

Autotune users need to die off starvation.

Huh?
So you're ok with using effects just as long as they don't adjust the tune of the singer?

This is stupid regressive thinking. Tools like autotune are allowing people to turn their musical vision into a reality without having to spend larges amounts of time learning redundant skillsets, such as singing. Welcome to the new generation of music where creative visions are fulfilled quicker and more accurately than ever and hack artists (such as trained singers) are exposed.
#19
A ton of artists (including a ton you all listen to, guaranteed) use autotune in subtle doses when recording vocals. guaran ****ing teed.
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#21
Quote by teegman
Huh?
So you're ok with using effects just as long as they don't adjust the tune of the singer?

This is stupid regressive thinking. Tools like autotune are allowing people to turn their musical vision into a reality without having to spend larges amounts of time learning redundant skillsets, such as singing. Welcome to the new generation of music where creative visions are fulfilled quicker and more accurately than ever and hack artists (such as trained singers) are exposed.

#23
Quote by aetherspear
A ton of artists (including a ton you all listen to, guaranteed) use autotune in subtle doses when recording vocals. guaran ****ing teed.


there are two main types of auto tune
snap and lock pitch
and relative pitch

most of the artist will use relative pitch where there is a natural sort of feel
i.e Dream theater with the back up vocals.

snap and lock. which u just heard in that youtube vid

snap and lock is where u chose the notes u want to pitch to say i want A C E. i will pick that sing anything i want and the melody will snap to the closest note
#24
Quote by teegman
Huh?
So you're ok with using effects just as long as they don't adjust the tune of the singer?

This is stupid regressive thinking. Tools like autotune are allowing people to turn their musical vision into a reality without having to spend larges amounts of time learning redundant skillsets, such as singing. Welcome to the new generation of music where creative visions are fulfilled quicker and more accurately than ever and hack artists (such as trained singers) are exposed.


ur a bloody idiot. thats just bad taste sarcasm attempt, now go troll in your parents room instead.
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#25
In a sort of related topic, does anybody know what Rush use in live shows?
For example, you'll see Alex singing into his mic, but it sounds like Geddy. In fact, it IS Geddy's distinctive voice. It isn't an autotuner, because it actually changed his voice.
I know Rush extensively use samplers for instruments and vocals, and I can't help but think, is Alex miming and the vocals are being triggered?


To TS - Autotuner, like everybody said.
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#26
Quote by MonsterOfRock
ur a bloody idiot. thats just bad taste sarcasm attempt, now go troll in your parents room instead.

??
I've justified my stance and reasoning. You attack me without reason and make wild, unfounded claims yet have the audacity to call me the troll?

Please keep out of this thread unless you're going to add to the discussion in a positive, meaningful manner.
#28
Quote by teegman
??
I've justified my stance and reasoning. You attack me without reason and make wild, unfounded claims yet have the audacity to call me the troll?

Please keep out of this thread unless you're going to add to the discussion in a positive, meaningful manner.


im calling you a troll under my judgement of what a troll is (the kind that writes random stuff in posts to appear funny to others), i got your joke, ha-ha, very funny for something ive seen about a million times on forums. Good on ya!

anyhow, now im trolling, so yes, ill be on my way. however my judgement of you being a troll, remains.
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#29
Quote by MonsterOfRock
im calling you a troll under my judgement of what a troll is (the kind that writes random stuff in posts to appear funny to others), i got your joke, ha-ha, very funny for something ive seen about a million times on forums. Good on ya!


That's not trolling, that's writing random stuff in posts to appear funny to others and that is not what he did.

Fail.
#30
I still don't get it?
What I posted wasn't a joke. Autotuner and other similar advances in technology are great for music and it's only the traditionalists that can't get over the idea that there might be better ways of doing things that try to hold these advancements back.
#31
I don't mind autotune. What I hate is the result. It sounds too computerized. But considering the fact that there are different effects for guitars, why shouldn't there be any effects for the human voice??

I personally wouldn't use it, I'd rather sing a couple of wrong notes than sound like a robot.
#32
Quote by teegman
I still don't get it?
What I posted wasn't a joke. Autotuner and other similar advances in technology are great for music and it's only the traditionalists that can't get over the idea that there might be better ways of doing things that try to hold these advancements back.


Don't you think thats a bit of an argumentative fallacy?

not all people who hate tools like auto tune are musical traditionalists, some im sure embrace new technology, in the same way that musical traditionalists enjoy the soud of autotune, thinking it enhances vocals

Correct me if im wrong but you seem to be saying that new musical technology is always there to enhance the listening experience and thus should be lauded. ut for every great musical advancement (the electric guitar, 8-track recording, pro tools/digital home recording software) there are some things that fail to catch on and make music better (the keytar, the extended play single)

Not saying that autotune is inherently bad or good, but rather as a tool, its up to the artist and the listener to determine what is good or bad music, via that tool. To call others closed minded traditionalists because they dislike the sound something makes seems just as ignorant a statement as someone blindly saying "auto-tune is the worst thing to happen to music"

neither statement is true, auto tune isnt the worst thing to happen to music, in fact it can be used incredibly tastefully and really enhance the sound of a song. However its not the greatest invention since internet porn, nor does its existence invalidate decades of music without its use. Even if you disagree with the premise of developing a skill set such as a singing voice, i still say having a skill set rather than relying on technology to give you one, gives you a natural leg up, especially if you like hearing yourself sing in the shower
#33
Quote by MonsterOfRock
im calling you a troll under my judgement of what a troll is (the kind that writes random stuff in posts to appear funny to others), i got your joke, ha-ha, very funny for something ive seen about a million times on forums. Good on ya!

anyhow, now im trolling, so yes, ill be on my way. however my judgement of you being a troll, remains.

Sorry man, Teegman made a very valid point. I don't totally agree with it but he did make a good point.
#34
Quote by MonsterOfRock
Autotune one of the worst atrocities ever invented. if you can add effects to ur vocals and make it enhance the music (delays, distortions w/e) then by all means do it. But to synthetically keep you in tune coz you cant sing for jack ****, and make horrible akon noises is like openly saying 'im not a singer, im merely posing'

Autotune users need to die off starvation.




Most people use autotune as an effect. Unbeknownst to most on this forum, you have to actually sing decently for autotune to work at all.
#35
Quote by teegman
It's about time that b-grade hack singers like James Hetfield, Michael Akerfeldt and Maynard James Keenan started heavily using autotune. This won't help their god-awful lyrics unfortunately.




On topic, autotune for sure.
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#36
Quote by MonsterOfRock
Autotune one of the worst atrocities ever invented. if you can add effects to ur vocals and make it enhance the music (delays, distortions w/e) then by all means do it. But to synthetically keep you in tune coz you cant sing for jack ****, and make horrible akon noises is like openly saying 'im not a singer, im merely posing'

Autotune users need to die off starvation.


I mostly just don't like the sound, but yeah there's the fact that you don't even need to sing for autotune to make it sound okay, you can speak in a monotone voice for all anyone cares. Just look at the music video Kevin Pereira did for Attack of the Show (parody of Kanye West).
#38
Autotune used as an effect can be really really tasty, especially in some electronica or techno.

Autotune used to help the voice keep in tune is also fine. Its used in the studio a lot more than you'd think. Most of the artists you listen to have autotune in their recordings, even if its just a touch. Frankly, people shouldnt flip a **** over it. Its just an advancement in technology

Imagine if people said "Oh em gee, distortion for guitar is such a terrible thing for guitar playing. Now anyone can play fast soooo much easier since distortion would hide their mistakes!!!!"
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