#1
I've been considering learning songs by ear, but since Im on a website known for its tabs, Im not sure if I should take the hard work and time to do so. I've heard its a good thing to do, but other guitarists I see like on youtube say they use tabs and are really good. If this helps, I like bands such as Suffocation, Morbid Angel, Carcass, Pantera, Exodus, Slayer, Misfits, and so on but I want to hear it fro you guys if this is what I should do rather than use tabs instead and tell me why and your experiences maybe because I guess I need some motivation for this.

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i say you should train your ear now so you can transcribe a song that tabs dont exist for later.
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Try to tab easier songs, death metal is really hard to tab due to all the distortion, and then check the tabs to see if you got it right.
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if you want to get better at playing by ear yes, if you're a beginner and want to play the song correctly, no

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I don't think it matters since you'll most likely want to write your own songs some day. Just by playing, you'll learn how the fretboard works. You'll be able to play whether you can transcribe a tab or not. Learn theory and that'll help you figure things out by ear easier and it'll also help you playing. That's my advice to you. No one is going to look down on you because you can't transcribe a tab if you can play well.
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i think transcribing is a skill that anyone in music should have
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#7
If you want to take the middle road, you could try to find videos of people playing and learn by watching.
#8
YES learning by ear feels better when you learn a song AND I will help you understand theory and you will soon start playing lots of stuff you learned by ear in your own playing style. Ear training is one of the most important parts of music
#9
you should definitely try learning by ear because when you're jamming with other people it's easier to just pick things up by ear than to stop the jam and ask what everyone else is playing.
#10
Oh and also it will help you if you want to jam with someone...even if you don't know what key you're in you will be able to play along and improvise---Jimi Hendrix and Stevie Ray Vaughan knew almost no music theory
#11
learn songs you like using tabs for now then when u get better and get to know the fretboard better (which notes make which sounds, what different techniques sound like, etc.) then start to transcribe songs/learn by ear. it would also be good to have at least basic knowledge of scales so u can at least tell if a songs in major scale, minor, blues, etc.
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#12
train your ear first and foremost basing off tabs you will soon learn more than 75% of player submitted tabs are wrong.
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play them, and youll get used to how they sound over time.
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#15
either way works
I learned on tabs, and over time developed the "ear"...and can normally figure stuff out now by ear, with a little guidance from tabs

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learn songs you like using tabs for now then when u get better and get to know the fretboard better (which notes make which sounds, what different techniques sound like, etc.) then start to transcribe songs/learn by ear. it would also be good to have at least basic knowledge of scales so u can at least tell if a songs in major scale, minor, blues, etc.


I'm with this.

When I first started, learning songs by tab really helped me learn which notes sound like what, and before long figuring a song out by ear was much easier because I could apply what I learned from using tab.
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How would you learn chords by ear just out of curiousity?

Most chords don't use as many notes as you think they do. A lot of them are 2 or 3 notes repeated along the strings. There are more complex chords but those are easier to detect because you can easily hear the anomoly (for me at least). You can usually hear the route chord, and you'll learn what major, minor, diminished, augmented, etc. sound like. You'll also know how to form them.
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#19
Try learning it by ear and when you cant, go for the tabs. Eventually it builds you transcribing ability up over time so you can transcribe more and more technical stuff by ear
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#20
It would help you a lot in the long run

also keep one thing in mind, until you train your ear enough, you're going to make a lot of wrong sounding awesome riffs etc in the process of trying to find the right one

it helps there too :p
#21
Transcribing (all the parts at least) will help you discover how harmony works, and how other instruments work.
Which should help you with making your own songs.

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#22
Everytime I try an learn a song by ear, I always find something I think sounds better and write my own riffs. So yeah, unproductive for me, haha.
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Fail. A big boatload of. Tabs are only truly useful if you use them as another tool to help you develop your ear.

Look at it this way - do you want to actually learn to play guitar, or do you just want to be the musical equivalent of a talking parrot?
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#25
Start by just working out basic chord progressions or basslines (a song like U2's 'With or Without You' or any electronica/dance/techno tune works for this). If you try anything complex immediately you'll just get frustrated and go back to tab. Learning even just basic theory (such as the major scale and the chords contained within it) helps a lot.

I think it's worth it as frankly a lot of the tabs on the net are inaccurate, hard to read or just plain useless. With time and practice you'll be able to transcribe whole songs (including vocal and keyboard parts) without too much effort.

When transcribing more complex stuff it helps to have audio software that can slow the track down without affecting pitch and loop small sections. There are also hardware 'phrase trainers' that do this.
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#26
Yeah, it is better. You develop your tonal ear which helps to tune your guitar without a tuner.
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#28
you`ve got to train your ear, even if you use the tabs just to find the key it`s in, then use your ears to actually work the song out....as a begginer to ear training that is, the more familiar you are with music theory the easier it is.........
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Fail. A big boatload of. Tabs are only truly useful if you use them as another tool to help you develop your ear.

Look at it this way - do you want to actually learn to play guitar, or do you just want to be the musical equivalent of a talking parrot?


Either that or be a seagull, lolz.

Seriously, though. Ear training develops over time regardless of whether or not you read tabs or not. I can ear out a song perfectly fine but the process is a lot slower. Why would I waste my time trying to ear out a Thomas Leeb song when the tuning is CGCGCEb, when I can just read the sheet music for it?