#3
We'll run out of fossil fuels soon enough, so we'll have to start introducing more and more stuff like this. tbh, if the technology exists and it's looking like it's going to be necessary to do so, we should do it. I'm sure someone would find ways to make lots of money out of it as well.

EDIT: They spelt emissions wrong.
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#4
Go for it.
Although I know France are building the worlds largest nuclear/fusion reactor. It's so big that if anything even went wrong Western Europe would be near destroyed. Chernobyl style. 2014 I think it opens.
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#5
Those things look huge. It's be cool if we could do it though. We should make like a world wide power grid so we constantly have solar power no matter where you are.
#6
Nuclear power for the win.
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Go for it.
Although I know France are building the worlds largest nuclear/fusion reactor. It's so big that if anything even went wrong Western Europe would be near destroyed. 2014 I think it opens.


If its an IFR reactor it will shut itself down. And fusion hasn't even been perfected yet. It is still to unstable and difficult to harness the energy.

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#8
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Those things look huge. It's be cool if we could do it though. We should make like a world wide power grid so we constantly have solar power no matter where you are.



I'd totally go to the desert and play the guitar real loud.. Yeah.. *drools*


Nice idea, though I heard wave energy in the Irish Sea could provide enough energy for the world for YEARS, only in one year. So after one year, we'd have energy for 40 years or so. That'd be cool.
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#9
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Go for it.
Although I know France are building the worlds largest nuclear/fusion reactor. It's so big that if anything even went wrong Western Europe would be near destroyed. 2014 I think it opens.


I don't think I can come up with a more awesome way to die, than in a fusion blast.
#10
I also heard scientists are working on power WITHOUT using wires, that would mean we could get our energy beamed from space or something.
#11
Do you realize how high the cost of photovoltaic solar cells is?

Solar energy is just about the most expensive common renewable energy source. Granted, it is becoming cheaper and more efficient, but it will still take decades before any reasonable large-scale solar fields will be feasible.

And as far as wave power goes, I don't know where LordPino got his information, but I can guarantee it is not accurate.
#12
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I also heard scientists are working on power WITHOUT using wires, that would mean we could get our energy beamed from space or something.


We've been able to do that for years, just not with particularly large voltages over distance. It was going to be used to 'beam down' power from a giant solar panel orbiting the sun
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#13
Why not? I don't think the barren lifeless dessert gives a sh*t if you drop solar panels on it

i mean...as long as it doesn't interrupt any kind of climate
#14
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If its an IFR reactor it will shut itself down. And fusion hasn't even been perfected yet. It is still to unstable and difficult to harness the energy.


I can't remember what it was called but when a discussion about this in French class on the day the Big Bang Machine( Large Hadron Collidor) was being turned on/going to kill us. French teacher thought that day would be the best time to discuss various apocalyptic events.
#15
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Do you realize how high the cost of photovoltaic solar cells is?

Solar energy is just about the most expensive common renewable energy source. Granted, it is becoming cheaper and more efficient, but it will still take decades before any reasonable large-scale solar fields will be feasible.

And as far as wave power goes, I don't know where LordPino got his information, but I can guarantee it is not accurate.



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We've been able to do that for years, just not with particularly large voltages over distance. It was going to be used to 'beam down' power from a giant solar panel orbiting the sun


Oh really? I only heard about it recently so I assumed it was quite new. It a cool idea though. I, for one, am sick of ****ing wires.

Maybe with more development they could get it to work properly.
#17
Wind power is not a viable future energy source. Where I live, Tyrone in N.Ireland, we have plenty of turbines, probably the most in Ireland, but global warming will not produce as much wind as we have now. It is looking as if we have wasted a lot of money and local councils have admitted Wind is not the solution
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Wind power is not a viable future energy source. Where I live, Tyrone in N.Ireland, we have plenty of turbines, probably the most in Ireland, but global warming will not produce as much wind as we have now. It is looking as if we have wasted a lot of money and local councils have admitted Wind is not the solution


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#19
Improbable. We're talking fields of solar panels the size of whole states. Who's going to run those? Employment and upkeep would be the #1 issue.


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#20
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Improbable. We're talking fields of solar panels the size of whole states. Who's going to run those? Employment and upkeep would be the #1 issue.


Nuclear power is supreme.


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#21
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Nuclear


Yeah, they're gonna open one about 200 miles away. Hopefully that's far enough incase of Chernobly 2
#22
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I also heard scientists are working on power WITHOUT using wires, that would mean we could get our energy beamed from space or something.

The funny part is that the technology for that has been around for a century.
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#24
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Go for it.
Although I know France are building the worlds largest nuclear/fusion reactor. It's so big that if anything even went wrong Western Europe would be near destroyed. Chernobyl style. 2014 I think it opens.





Fusion can become a chain reaction.

But nowhere near like fission can.
At worst the fusion facility would be destroyed. But fusion requires a specific environment in order to work, and if that environment is not perfect. The reaction fails.

NOT Chernobyl style.

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#25
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I don't think I can come up with a more awesome way to die, than in a fusion blast.


It wouldn't be a blast, it would be a nuclear meltdown. Reactors don't explode. If they did three mile island and Chernobyl would no longer exist. The problem with a meltdown is that the radioactive toxins get into the soil via the water from the cooling system. When it gets into the soil plants absorb it, and the plants get eaten and the radiation is released into the air. People get cancer, babies are deformed. **** goes down.

Also, to the guys saying it will be like Chernobyl, it won't be. The reason Chernobyl's plant melted down was because the people running it weren't careful at all. They let things break down and fall apart. It doesn't take a genius to realize that when you let dangerous **** fall apart then something bad is going to happen.
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#26
wow isn;t that big at all. i still think it is silly to power all from one source- diversify!

or just wait and see if the holy grail of cold fusion can be sorted.
#27
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Fusion can become a chain reaction.
But nowhere near like fission can.
At worst the fusion facility would be destroyed. But fusion requires a specific environment in order to work, and if that environment is not perfect. The reaction fails.
NOT Chernobyl style.


We were also told the chances of anything going wrong were tiny, like 0.005%
Like I said before I can't remember it's name or if it's fission, fusion or if it's just a plain nuclear plant but a disaster could be like what happened in Chernobyl, on a smaller scale. French government are investing tens of billions in it anyway.
Anyway it doesn't matter, it's not gonna happen!
I didn't think my exxageration would cause a debate on the matter.
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#28
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We were also told the chances of anything going wrong were tiny, like 0.005%
Like I said before I can't remember it's name or if it's fission, fusion or if it's just a plain nuclear plant but a disaster could be like what happened in Chernobyl, on a smaller scale. French government are investing tens of billions in it anyway.
Anyway it doesn't matter, it's not gonna happen!
I didn't think my exxageration would cause a debate on the matter.



to be fair those odds seem right, how many of all the Nuclear reactors in the world have gone wrong? one.
and i dunno about this stuff but weren't Chernobyl done to human error? and all the deaths because the clean up crew were given the wrong safety suites
#29
and what the hell are you going to do at night?
how the hell are you going to transport it all over the place?


solar power sucks ass


*to be power engineer*

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Wind power is not a viable future energy source. Where I live, Tyrone in N.Ireland, we have plenty of turbines, probably the most in Ireland, but global warming will not produce as much wind as we have now. It is looking as if we have wasted a lot of money and local councils have admitted Wind is not the solution


wind power sucks. Spain built a assload of wind plants....and then had to build the same amount of gas plants so it could hold the power grid together when the wind stops.
Same goes for germany, they've royally ****ed up the quality of their electricity and its hurting the entire central european power network
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#30
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and what the hell are you going to do at night?
how the hell are you going to transport it all over the place?


solar power sucks ass


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Umm, that's why there are panels all over the world. When it's night in one area, it will be day time in another, meaning the system is still absorbing power.
#31
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Umm, that's why there are panels all over the world. When it's night in one area, it will be day time in another, meaning the system is still absorbing power.


Not to mention there will be ways of storing power that isn't used right away...
#32
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Umm, that's why there are panels all over the world. When it's night in one area, it will be day time in another, meaning the system is still absorbing power.


lets say....you have an aluminium smelter in the middle of siberia, you're going to need transpot a whole ****ton of of power halfway across the world so it can keep running and night

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Not to mention there will be ways of storing power that isn't used right away...

batteries suck and the only method of storing power we have atm is pumped-storage hydroelectricity.... and people get all fussy when you want to dam up a piece of nature
#33
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lets say....you have an aluminium smelter in the middle of siberia, you're going to need transpot a whole ****ton of of power halfway across the world so it can keep running and night


batteries suck and the only method of storing power we have atm is pumped-storage hydroelectricity.... and people get all fussy when you want to dam up a piece of nature

I'd use the excess power to generate hydrogen. It can be shipped to where it's needed, and used in fuel cells and whatnot.
#34
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I'd use the excess power to generate hydrogen. It can be shipped to where it's needed, and used in fuel cells and whatnot.


the efficiency of electrolysis is **** and the efficiency of fuel cells is ****

compared to batteries you're practically throwing the energy away
#35
The funny thing is, we actually lose money due to the cost of making them and how much they pay off.