#1
i can get one for about 500

is this a decent amp for high gain metal?

I have never played it...
but i've heard good things..
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so the general consensus is that no, it is over priced?
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so the general consensus is that no, it is over priced?


Is it new? or used?

I only played one in the store at "store" volume and I liked it..... for a $199 amp. But it ain't a JCM 800 and it ain't clean and it ain't got much gain and one channel is a pain in the ass.
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Is it new? or used?

I only played one in the store at "store" volume and I liked it..... for a $199 amp. But it ain't a JCM 800 and it ain't clean and it ain't got much gain and one channel is a pain in the ass.

no it is used

ahh

well i would need high gain
and jazzy stuff...

so this seems like it wouldn't fit the bill huh??

as always UG to the rescue
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no it is used

ahh

well i would need high gain
and jazzy stuff...

so this seems like it wouldn't fit the bill huh??

as always UG to the rescue


Definitely not. It's waaaaaaayyyyyyyyy too bright to get an acceptable traditional jazz tone out of. And you can do much better for high gain as the Windsor needs a boost to get heavy.

EDIT: Oh, and used, $500 is a total ****ing rip off. You can get the head/cab at GC for $400.
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#9
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Definitely not. It's waaaaaaayyyyyyyyy too bright to get an acceptable traditional jazz tone out of. And you can do much better for high gain as the Windsor needs a boost to get heavy.

EDIT: Oh, and used, $500 is a total ****ing rip off. You can get the head/cab at GC for $400.

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Definitely not. It's waaaaaaayyyyyyyyy too bright to get an acceptable traditional jazz tone out of. And you can do much better for high gain as the Windsor needs a boost to get heavy.

EDIT: Oh, and used, $500 is a total ****ing rip off. You can get the head/cab at GC for $400.

You can fix this with about $25 worth of resistors, though it takes some experience.
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#11
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You can fix this with about $25 worth of resistors, though it takes some experience.


Yea but I figured he probably doesn't have that experience if he's asking for suggestions here and I don't want to be responsible for any injuries.
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#12
I think...

That a decent SS amp is just what you need. All I can recommend is an Ampeg VH/SS - 140C, as that is all I have had extensive time with. I think Randall has some decent amps too? My bandmate has a Crate GX-130C and its pretty cool for gain and more clean tones.
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#14
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The Windsor is Laney's take on an old-school Marshall tone (think JMT45) - I honestly couldn't think of a worse type of amp for 'metal and jazz'.


Laney? JTM45? It's Peavey's clone of a JCM800.
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#15
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Laney? JTM45? It's Peavey's clone of a JCM800.



This.

It's a budget version though too, so it's not going to be exactly on
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Laney? JTM45? It's Peavey's clone of a JCM800.

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Laney? JTM45? It's Peavey's clone of a JCM800.

It's not a clone, just a generic Marshall-voiced amp for the masses. And although the JCM800 handles metal pretty well, the Windsor doesn't - cheap speakers and cheap tubes are probably the main reason.
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It's not a clone, just a generic Marshall-voiced amp for the masses. And although the JCM800 handles metal pretty well, the Windsor doesn't - cheap speakers and cheap tubes are probably the main reason.


Uh i have to disagree with u here, yes it has cheaper speakers and tubes but it does metal fairly well, and at times it sounds better than a JCM800 imo, i'd rather get a JMC800 though but that's beside the point, one thing to mention though is that this amp doesn't do cleans too well, u have to roll back the volume and tone on your guitar and crank the pre-amp to get a half decent clean
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Uh i have to disagree with u here, yes it has cheaper speakers and tubes but it does metal fairly well, and at times it sounds better than a JCM800 imo, i'd rather get a JMC800 though but that's beside the point, one thing to mention though is that this amp doesn't do cleans too well, u have to roll back the volume and tone on your guitar and crank the pre-amp to get a half decent clean





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#20
This whole thread is amazing.

TS, that is such a rip-off its unbelievable, and the opposite of what you want. You are looking for a two channel amp, one high gain and the other clean. That is a one channel amp with low-mid gain.

I suggest you look at a B-52 AT112 with your budget. It will do both cleans and br00tal pretty decently for the price.
#22
get the windsor head and get an avatar cab or something else besids the peavey cab. its awful you will l require a speaker change. also get a 2x12

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Yeh the SICK! bit sounds a bit stupid.

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get the windsor head and get an avatar cab or something else besids the peavey cab. its awful you will l require a speaker change. also get a 2x12

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#24
This thread delivers.
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#25
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You can fix this with about $25 worth of resistors, though it takes some experience.

I would be very interested in hearing this mod descibed in more detail. I DO have some experience with electonics (soldering and such) but have never had a chance to apply any electrical knowledge to amps. Would you mind explaining this to me? I'd love to try it.
#26
Its a JCM 800 clone through and through. Only takes a few mods to get it up to its level.

But that said stock it sucks for high gain... It takes all of Marshalls bad quality's and amplifys them ten fold once you kick up the gain.

So if you want it for metal I would look elsewhere..
#27
dude, buy the windsor, yes it can do metal with some help, and yes it can get decents cleans...i have one. and yes you can even improve the sound more by putting better tubes and stuff...you cant get a better half stack for that price..also buy it new from MF. 500 is way too much.