#1
Has anyone had this problem before? I have a Schecter Blackjack ATX FR (Floyd rose original) and whenever I dive with the bar and release, ALL strings go a little flat, maybe by 1/4 step or less. When I pull the bar up, the strings go back in tune. Does anyone know how to solve that?
#2
Try tightening the locking nut.
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Try tightening the locking nut.


this

you have to find the "sweet spot" of how tight to have the nut. too tight, and the nut will creek whenever you dive or pull too far. too loose and the strings don't stay in tune
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this

you have to find the "sweet spot" of how tight to have the nut. too tight, and the nut will creek whenever you dive or pull too far. too loose and the strings don't stay in tune

Or you strip the damn screw like me.
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Try tightening the locking nut.

+1, but dont overtighen (i dunno how to spell it, and i dont wanna google it) or the screw holes get ruined.
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Or you strip the damn screw like me.


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#7
Make sure the trem is level too. And like the guys above said, make sure the locking nuts are down tight enough.
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#8
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I dive with the bar and release, ALL strings go a little flat, maybe by 1/4 step or less. When I pull the bar up, the strings go back in tune. Does anyone know how to solve that?


Actually sounds like you're trem needs lubing. (If the bridge is parallel.)
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#9
Everything seems fine, the nut is tight enough, the bridge is well leveled, and the guitar is brand new so I don't think it needs lubing... BTW the G-string gets more out of tune than the others.
#10
Are the string new and still stretching?
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#11
yes they are... How much time should it take for the strings to be stretched enough? It's annoying to go out of tune after using the whammy only once lol
#12
After a day or so they should be stretched, unless you don't play much.

Hopefully once they are stretched you won't have an issue anymore with staying in tune.
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yes they are... How much time should it take for the strings to be stretched enough? It's annoying to go out of tune after using the whammy only once lol



Just dump the bar, then pull it back as far as it will go, Rince repeat....(without the rinse part.)


Just do that a couple of times, also... Make sure the nut is putting pressure on the string. With the nut completley tightened, pluck the G string and then put pressure on it on the other side of the nut, if it changes pitch, then it is slipping in the nut, and you need to fix that somehow.
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Just dump the bar, then pull it back as far as it will go, Rince repeat....(without the rinse part.)


Just do that a couple of times, also... Make sure the nut is putting pressure on the string. With the nut completley tightened, pluck the G string and then put pressure on it on the other side of the nut, if it changes pitch, then it is slipping in the nut, and you need to fix that somehow.


That's a very good test Biga...i'll have to remember that one.
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#15
biga's good with this kind of stuff. i should know, i fight crime with him.
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#16
I've been dropping the bar for a couple of minutes now and I'm still having the same problem. I suppose lubing my FR could fix the problem of the strings becoming sharp when I pull the bar up, but the G string is still going out of tune all the time.
#17
Either your nut isn't tight enough or you need to tighten the screw that holds the string in its saddle. Can't think of any other reason for your strings to not stay in tune..unless your spring tension is just way out of whack.
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#18
Is it just the G string now?
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#19
No, it's still all of the strings, but the G string is worse lol
#20
And you're sure that the bridge is parallel to the body?
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#21
how many springs are attached to your claw in the rear cavity? If your strings aren't still stretching and your nut is ok, it sounds like the claw springs are too loose and not returning to the same position everytime. I would just re-set it up withe heavier springs, or add a spring and dial it in from there. But that is me, you are the only one who knows if you are skilled enough to pull off an entire set-up from scratch. (and I may get flamed for suggesting adding a spring)
Also, make sure there is no actual physical interference between the trem and the body. I have seen this problem on brand new Jacksons before where the arm mount was hanging up in the cavity just enough that it wouldn't completely return to "home" position without a wiggle or a nudge to help it.
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#22
There are three strings attached. And I've made sure that the bridge is parallel and the strings were stretched. But I think you have a point Mike, it looks like the bridge is not going back to its initial position when I pull up.
#23
Lube your trem posts.

Or if it isn't that, the knife-edges could be dulled.
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Last edited by biga29 at Sep 6, 2009,
#24
^ yeah. That is where to start the process of elimination.
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