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#1
basically ive put a cv in everywhere hiring and groveled with some shop owners i know from previous jobs and im still getting no phonecalls or letters back - what else CAN i do?

thankyou
#2
Sell your ears.
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#5
buy a cape and a cup and fight crime.
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#9
Next time you hand your CV in ask the manager if he wants a BJ
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#10
Have you applied for:

Tesco, Sainsbury's, Boots, Waitrose, Aldi, Lidl, Co-op, M&S, Asda, Farmfoods, Iceland, Morrisons, Somerfield, Maplins, Burger King, McDonalds, Subway, Greggs, Starbucks, Costa, KFC, Pizza Hut, Waterstones, Carphone Warehouse, Argos, WHSmith, HMV, Virgin/Zavvi/Head, Next, Primark, Currys.Digital/Dixons and every cafe, bar and restaurant in your town?
#11
start a business charging people 20 bucks to help them find jobs then just send their cv's to the same places you submitted yours. then get paid for looking for work
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#12
put in an application at everywhere you can think of? I'm having trouble finding one at the moment as well, but my problem is I'm too picky I've only applied at like 3 or 4 places.
#13
Look for other jobs thats outside your field,you know simple no brainer ones, gonna go down town today and see if i can get a job as Busboy not what i have had in mind at all but it's an income non the less.
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start a business charging people 20 bucks to help them find jobs then just send their cv's to the same places you submitted yours. then get paid for looking for work




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#15
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Nothing.

The economy blows.

frames of mind like this are why failures exist.
"it's someone elses fault"

i commend the threadstarter for actually applying at a bunch of places and still asking what else he could do.

dont listen to the crap i've quoted, TS. as tough as it may be, the people who end up with nothing in a western society are just the ones who didnt try hard enough.


to be helpful, a lot of franchises and things will only offer you a job if you bug them about it quite a bit. they prefer people who are persistent because it shows that you'll work hard. just keep applying at as many places as possible. if you can, try to assess the places that probably have a very high turnover rate, and apply there, since they're more likely to have a vacant position.
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#16
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frames of mind like this are why failures exist.
"it's someone elses fault"

i commend the threadstarter for actually applying at a bunch of places and still asking what else he could do.

dont listen to the crap i've quoted, TS. as tough as it may be, the people who end up with nothing in a western society are just the ones who didnt try hard enough.


to be helpful, a lot of franchises and things will only offer you a job if you bug them about it quite a bit. they prefer people who are persistent because it shows that you'll work hard. just keep applying at as many places as possible. if you can, try to assess the places that probably have a very high turnover rate, and apply there, since they're more likely to have a vacant position.


thanks i think i just gotta wait til uni students go back then there will be loads of jobs at asda etc again
#17
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frames of mind like this are why failures exist.
"it's someone elses fault"

i commend the threadstarter for actually applying at a bunch of places and still asking what else he could do.

dont listen to the crap i've quoted, TS. as tough as it may be, the people who end up with nothing in a western society are just the ones who didnt try hard enough.


to be helpful, a lot of franchises and things will only offer you a job if you bug them about it quite a bit. they prefer people who are persistent because it shows that you'll work hard. just keep applying at as many places as possible. if you can, try to assess the places that probably have a very high turnover rate, and apply there, since they're more likely to have a vacant position.

Suck my ****. The bolded is bull ****, you can't deny that.

And persistance didn't do **** for my chances these last couple of months.
#18
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Suck my ****. The bolded is bull ****, you can't deny that.

And persistance didn't do **** for my chances these last couple of months.

you've already given up. nobody will hire a quitter.
i do deny it.
your world is filled with opportunity, but you've given up on taking it. worse still, you're encouraging others to do the same.
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#20
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Uh, I did what he did for four months to no avail.

Now I'm back at school and it's impossible to manage my time to put in as much effort as I did before.

you're just making excuses. the fact remains that all it takes is effort.
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GREAT JOB

and now you're being a little bitch about it.

stop blaming things on what is external, and start taking some responsibility. if you want a job, make yourself the best candidate for the job. it really is that simple. all you have to do is be better than the rest.
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#24
Ask a teacher to review your C.V thats the problem half the time...also lie, nothing major just something that would make you look good, or do some voulenteer work and put that on there, other than that when you go in with your C.V ask to see the manager if he's not to busy this way you can make an impression with him and look like your commited to getting a job.
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#26
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and now you're being a little bitch about it.

stop blaming things on what is external, and start taking some responsibility. if you want a job, make yourself the best candidate for the job. it really is that simple. all you have to do is be better than the rest.

You're being a condescending mother****er. Why would I spend that much effort and not do those things?

It's not nearly as simple as you'd believe. The stats are at something like 23% unemployment nationally now.
#27
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is it worth applying at hotels now that peak seasons over?

it couldnt hurt.
occasionally (very rarely), after they peak, they lose more employees than they need because they have to go and do other things.

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You're being a condescending mother****er. Why would I spend that much effort and not do those things?

It's not nearly as simple as you'd believe. The stats are at something like 23% unemployment nationally now.

clearly, since you didnt get a job, you didnt do those things. you were not the best candidate.

statistics are meaningless. there might be less jobs than before, and it might be harder to get a job, but the jobs still exist, and the employers are just waiting for the best person for them to come along.
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#28
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the people who end up with nothing in a western society are just the ones who didnt try hard enough.

That's a pile of arse, and an overly idealistic way of looking at a fundamentally unfair system.

I'm not saying making an effort isn't important, but you can't say that nothing external to yourself can possibly influence your chances.
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#29
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That's a pile of arse, and an overly idealistic way of looking at a fundamentally unfair system.

I'm not saying making an effort isn't important, but you can't say that nothing external to yourself can possibly influence your chances.

i didnt say that the external cannot influence your chances. i said that you shouldnt blame the external, given that, although some people find it harder, you are still in control.

and no, its not idealistic at all. its the exact opposite. in an ideal world, everyone would get the job, and being the best wouldnt matter. this is realistic - the best person DOES get the job, and if you're not the best person, then whoever the best person was has just tried harder than you.
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#30
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i didnt say that the external cannot influence your chances. i said that you shouldnt blame the external, given that, although some people find it harder, you are still in control.

and no, its not idealistic at all. its the exact opposite. in an ideal world, everyone would get the job, and being the best wouldnt matter. this is realistic - the best person DOES get the job, and if you're not the best person, then whoever the best person was has just tried harder than you.


Fine, you're not idealistic, just naive.
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#31
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basically ive put a cv in everywhere hiring and groveled with some shop owners i know from previous jobs and im still getting no phonecalls or letters back - what else CAN i do?

thankyou



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#32
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Fine, you're not idealistic, just naive.

i recognise that i'm oversimplifying the situation, however i'm trying to be more realistic than the comment that theres nothing the threadstarter can do and that it's out of his control.

regardless of the oversimplification, so long as we dont define what it is to be suitable, all anyone has to do is stay better than second best, and they'll get the job.
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#33
I can't find myself anything more than a weekend job, so i'm hardly going to tell you how to get one am I?
#34
Just show up somewhere and start doing ****.. who knows could work right?
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#35
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i didnt say that the external cannot influence your chances. i said that you shouldnt blame the external, given that, although some people find it harder, you are still in control.

and no, its not idealistic at all. its the exact opposite. in an ideal world, everyone would get the job, and being the best wouldnt matter. this is realistic - the best person DOES get the job, and if you're not the best person, then whoever the best person was has just tried harder than you.

That wouldn't be an idealistic way of looking at it, that would be making idealistic shit up. We all know not everyone gets jobs, the idealistic way of looking at it is to say that success is proportionate to effort, whereas in reality there are a lot of other factors many of which are out of your control.

Although I'm not sure why I'm arguing about this, trying really hard is a good idea for the purposes of this thread.
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#36
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That wouldn't be an idealistic way of looking at it, that would be making idealistic shit up. We all know not everyone gets jobs, the idealistic way of looking at it is to say that success is proportionate to effort, whereas in reality there are a lot of other factors many of which are out of your control.

i'm defining effort as the things that you do which make you more likely to get a job.

if you're stronger than the brick-lifter who gets the job because the other guy is friends with the manager, then they have gone to the effort of making friends with the manager and are therefore more likely to get the job.

there's nothing idealistic about it. you just have to find a way to get ahead of the rest, and the job is yours.
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#37
I didnt even have to look at the user name to know this was your thread dude
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#39
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i recognise that i'm oversimplifying the situation, however i'm trying to be more realistic than the comment that theres nothing the threadstarter can do and that it's out of his control.

regardless of the oversimplification, so long as we dont define what it is to be suitable, all anyone has to do is stay better than second best, and they'll get the job.


I respect your attitude, but you are definitely oversimplifying it. We'd all like to believe that the best person gets the job but thats clearly not always the case.
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#40
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I respect your attitude, but you are definitely oversimplifying it. We'd all like to believe that the best person gets the job but thats clearly not always the case.

as i said in another post, i'm not saying that the most appropriate person gets the job, i'm saying that the person who has managed to make themselves most attractive gets the job.
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