#1
Right I made a thread a month or two back on what new guitar I should get and since then my budget's increased to £2000/$3300

My current toplist consists of:
Caparison TAT
http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/electric_guitars_detail.asp?stock=07060810372329

ESP Horizon FR II
http://www.richtonemusic.co.uk/guitars-1/electric-guitars-2/esp-horizon-fr-ii-electric-guitar-see-thru-black-cherry-300.html?zenid=41212c84a6431ff1c50564c97442eec2

Ibanez RG3620Z Prestige
http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/79448

Out of the three I'm leaning mostly towards the Caparison but they're a bitch to get hold of.
Could use a few more alternatives too
Looking for a Soloist/superstrat body
24 frets
HH or HSS
FR or not is not an issue
Preferably keeping to the ~£1500 part of the £2000 so I have some left over for a new cab.

Played through a Peavey 6505+
Mostly along the lines of The Faceless, Nile, Periphery, TesseracT etc. but needs a good deal of versatility for a lot of other styles
No Deans, never played one I liked (and I've played a lot of them) apart from the RC7

Thanks in advance.
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#2
not gonna lie dude, i'm stumped. those are all excellent guitars.

i will say, rumour has it, the ibanez zero bridge is amazing.

other than that, find em, try em, pick one
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#4
I've tried all three of them (which has involved me travelling halfway across the country in each direction) and I'm completely stumped, they all blew me away, so I'm stuck for choice
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#5
this is a no brainer, get the Caparison.
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#6
What about a Jackson USA Soloist?

Nearer the £2000 mark, but they've got H-H (Seymour Duncan) pickups, Original Floyd Rose, Neck thru construction. Classic superstrat body, ebony fretboard (which IMO is much smoother than rosewood, and looks classier too), and comes in loads of different finishes.

Not to mention the compound radius which flattens towards the neck and the nice thin profile. Just something for you to consider, as I'm a Jackson user myself.
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#7
The zero bridge is amazing, so much better then floyd's or edges...as for Caparison is would get the TAT II over the other two guitars...Caparisons are amazing I hear
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#9
I was thinking about a Jackson Soloist as well but it just seemed a bit bland compared to the others.
I also forgot to add, I'm still waiting for my Blackmachine B2 quote (3 months waiting already) so if I get a decent quote then it's a helluva toss-up between that and the Caparison
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#10
Either the Cap or the Ibanez. Both are really well made instruments. I like the s-s-h of the cap. I like the egde zero of the ibanez. truly the best trem out on the market if you want a fr style trem. If you can split/tap the ibby pickups that would be cool
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get the esp. i really like them, i love the onw i own.


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#12
ESP's are awesome, great build quality, Ibanez's play awesome, Caparison dominates tho.

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#13
Ibanez S5470 is an alternative. And a good one. It's MUCH cheaper than all those, and IMO (although I haven't tried the Caparison) almost as good as the others. It's a wee bit worse than the Horizon, but very, very close. Same with the RG. Both are better, but not that much better.
#15
My opinion (in this order):

- Jackson SL1/SL2H
- Caparison TAT II
- J-Custom Ibanez
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- Horizon
- Top end Carvin
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- Ibanez prestige
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#16
if i had £2k, i'd be looking at vigier, suhr, tyler, tom anderson, stuff like that. not ibanez, caparison and jackson. up to you, of course.
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if i had £2k, i'd be looking at vigier, suhr, tyler, tom anderson, stuff like that. not ibanez, caparison and jackson. up to you, of course.

I don't see what everybody sees in Vigier. Granted they are great guitars, but I never found them top notch.
And for 2k, you wont buy a suhr, tyler nor Anderson. Certainly not after shipping and import taxes.
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#18
there are dealers here... i've definitely seen some suhrs under the £2k mark, though the prices may have gone up recently. but certainly a while back you could get those pro series suhrs for a little over a grand. you might be right about tyler and anderson, though.

I liked the vigiers I tried, though i'd agree they're not quite as nice as tylers etc.

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#20
I'm gonna say Caparison, but instead of RG prestige, look at j. Custom on the Ibanez end of the spectrum. But if that Blackmachine quote comes back within range, thats a no-brainer
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#21
Caparison. I so want one of them, but it's not going to happen for me. Unless my uncle is Alan Sugar, which I doubt.
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#22
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The zero bridge is amazing, so much better then floyd's or edges...as for Caparison is would get the TAT II over the other two guitars...Caparisons are amazing I hear



You may prefer it, but techinically it is actually worse then the Edge, Edge Pro (Debatable, considering the downgrades they've made on it), and Lo-Pro Edge.
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I tried it out in store.

Great neck, nice n light, good tuning stability. Overall a good guitar. I didn't but it cause I generally only buy guitars over a grand now.
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there are dealers here... i've definitely seen some suhrs under the £2k mark, though the prices may have gone up recently. but certainly a while back you could get those pro series suhrs for a little over a grand. you might be right about tyler and anderson, though.

I liked the vigiers I tried, though i'd agree they're not quite as nice as tylers etc.


You gotta ask yourself, do you want a plain jane Suhr bottom of the line Suhr model in comparison to the best Jackson, Ibanez, or ESP models you can get. Don't get me wrong, I've played about 50 Suhr's and every single one is great. It's just they have such little appeal to them in the pro line. If you get a Floyd equipped suhr you want the Modern Carve Top.


Out of the 3 TS has mentioned, I would take the Ibanez first because of the tremolo, humbuckers and excellent wood, ESP second because I'm not a fan of single coils on shredders & other than the single coils the guitars are near identical.

If you think you'd prefer the single coils over the humbuckers, go for the caparison, I just prefer a big fat lead and rhythm tone compared to a springy chimey tone.
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You gotta ask yourself, do you want a plain jane Suhr bottom of the line Suhr model in comparison to the best Jackson, Ibanez, or ESP models you can get. Don't get me wrong, I've played about 50 Suhr's and every single one is great. It's just they have such little appeal to them in the pro line. If you get a Floyd equipped suhr you want the Modern Carve Top.


i reckon you could get a higher-end suhr for £2k, but i could be wrong, and it is a while since i checked the prices.
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i reckon you could get a higher-end suhr for £2k, but i could be wrong, and it is a while since i checked the prices.


A carve top modern 24 fret floyd equipped suhr runs well over $3,500 USD in most cases. The paint and other options will change it up slightly, usually for an increase. After shipping and import taxes... probably be pushing somewhere around £3k
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A carve top modern 24 fret floyd equipped suhr runs well over $3,500 USD in most cases. The paint and other options will change it up slightly, usually for an increase. After shipping and import taxes... probably be pushing somewhere around £3k


yeah, possibly. as i said, it's a while since i checked the prices, it's possible that mine are out of date.

here are some prices here:

http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/electric_guitars.asp?brandname=Suhr

http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/electric_guitars.asp?brandname=Tom%20Anderson

http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/electric_guitars.asp?brandname=Tyler

i don't think i was that far out, certainly a couple of each of those are available under £2k, and several more for a couple of hundred over... the moderns are a bit more, though, i think soundsgreat had a carved top one for £2800 or so.

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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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