#1
Okay well I know how much pure hatred there is on these forums for the Spider series but I personally don't think they're so bad. I own a Spider III 75 and I was just wondering if anyone thinks it would be worth my money to upgrade to a Spider IV 120. I think it looks very interesting. Any thoughts?
#3
isn't it the same thing but more presets
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#7
In before people spout the "Stop riding the spiders are **** bandwagon".


Op, save up and get a better amp, or if this is not possible, and you actually like the amp, then get it.

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#8
i dont really se the point in anything abouve a 30, they make great practice amps, but they arent for gigging really, and you dont need that much power if youre in your bedroom
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#9
The IVs are worse than the IIIs. Even if you like the IIIs, that doesn't mean you'll like the IVs. And you'll outgrow that amp long before you actually need 120 watts.
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#10
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The IVs are worse than the IIIs. Even if you like the IIIs, that doesn't mean you'll like the IVs. And you'll outgrow that amp long before you actually need 120 watts.
Nope.
#11
Quote by The_Bosstone
Nope.


Yes, they are IMO. I AB'd the two next to each other when the IV first came out and the only thing the IV did better was cleans. It was fizzier and muddier than the III.
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#12
I have a feeling threads like these will never stop...

If you like it, keep it

If you dont, GET SOMETHING ELSE
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#13
I haven't ever found a SS amp where I'm completely happy with the distortion, however a good clean channel is MORE important than a distortion channel for me. I can just use overdrive and distortion pedals through the clean channel.
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#14
Quote by Siangkam
Okay well I know how much pure hatred there is on these forums for the Spider series but I personally don't think they're so bad. I own a Spider III 75 and I was just wondering if anyone thinks it would be worth my money to upgrade to a Spider IV 120. I think it looks very interesting. Any thoughts?

Hi Siangkam , well if you already experience the spider amps , I would upgrade my investment in to something different like another modelling amp high end or tube or even a solidstate. the slackadjuster
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Should I Get A Spider III Or IV I Need A Practice Amp And Im Talking about the 15Watts







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#18
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Ok. But Tell Me Which One I Should Get


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#20
u might like it, but once u play something better, u will see how bad the tone truly is, or u might still like it, everyone is different, but the majority of ppl don't, i've found about 1/100 ppl like it
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#22
Actually as a practice amp I think a spider is a cool amp, may sound bad a high volumes, but it got everything you need when practicing(effects, every kind of sound,etc) at the expense of your tone.
I would get the III just because its cheaper.
#23
The chances are you haven't played a tube amp, if you do, you will understand your spider sucks.

Or, your ear hasn't matured enough to tell the difference.
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#24
Jesus christ, have any of you actually played a Spider IV?

I ended up playing through one at Guitar Center the other day and was pleasantly surprised, they made it look a lot less tacky, made it easier to dial in settings, and also improved the tone. The EQ settings are still kind of rigid, but it's definitely an improvement over the Spider III IMO.

Would I personally purchase one? No, because I've got a Marshall JCM2000 DSL401 and a Laney PT30MV Series II, both of which are great tube amps, BUT I can certainly see why they'd appeal to beginner/intermediate/somewhere-in-between guitarists.

TS: I wouldn't upgrade to the new Spider because although they are different generations, the Spider IV still isn't different enough to be worthy of replacing your Spider III with. I'd save up for a Peavey ValveKing or Peavey Vypyr, maybe even a used Fender Blues Junior, if I were in your position.

TL;DR: stop bashing amps you have no experience with just because of the brand name.
#25
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invest in something better like a tube amp.

Doesn't have to be tube, though. Just has to be good.
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#26
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Doesn't have to be tube, though. Just has to be good.

I agree. I don't own a spider (i have a Flextone) but the flextone gets a pretty decent tone at high volumes. Not the best compared to a tube amp, but if you think about it, the flex gets me through alot of styles with the amp presets.
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#27
Quote by Schism1985
Jesus christ, have any of you actually played a Spider IV?

I ended up playing through one at Guitar Center the other day and was pleasantly surprised, they made it look a lot less tacky, made it easier to dial in settings, and also improved the tone. The EQ settings are still kind of rigid, but it's definitely an improvement over the Spider III IMO.

Would I personally purchase one? No, because I've got a Marshall JCM2000 DSL401 and a Laney PT30MV Series II, both of which are great tube amps, BUT I can certainly see why they'd appeal to beginner/intermediate/somewhere-in-between guitarists.

TS: I wouldn't upgrade to the new Spider because although they are different generations, the Spider IV still isn't different enough to be worthy of replacing your Spider III with. I'd save up for a Peavey ValveKing or Peavey Vypyr, maybe even a used Fender Blues Junior, if I were in your position.

TL;DR: stop bashing amps you have no experience with just because of the brand name.


Yes, I have. I made a thread describing my feelings about it back when they were first released.
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#28
Go to the store and play every freakin' amp there regardless of price. Then go to another store and play all the amps there until you run out of places to go. Then make your decision.
#29
I reccomend the Peavey Vypyr or The Vypyr Tube, i tried the solid state model and its clean and dirty tones blew me away, id say equal features as the spider. the spider only covers it up with presets that began to sound similar to me. Check it out!
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