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#1
Ok, i asked a question sometime last week about general bass technique as compared to guitar technique, and amongst the general raucous was a little argument over whether one should or should not use a pick to play bass.

now that i've actually had a chance to play around with my bass, i've found that a pick seems to generally sound better, and it allows for me to add changes in rhythm, timing, etc all a lot easier.

what i'm wondering is, should i try to ween myself off of the pick? is it IN GENERAL better to be able to play fingerstyle? Or does it really all depend on what the song needs?

btw, i'm going to be playing in a worship band, so everything that i'm going to be doing at this point is going to be really freaking simple stuff.

anyway, thanks for the help!
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#4
It's preference and what the song needs. Learn both and use both. You can use one as your main of course. I only break out a pick every once in a long long while...like at the end of iron man with my cover band.
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#5
I would learn both.
I use both.
Most people use both.
Ignorant people think one is more superior.
#6
^True, but smart people know which to use in whatever situation for best sound or just prefer one over the other.
#7
ok, cool. thanks. that's what i was thinking about trying. i hope that i keep bass up. it's pretty awesome so far, and plus it would be cool to have a reason to upgrade from the squier that i have on extended borrow now lol

thanks y'all!
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#8
if you are using a weak amp, I'd use a pick. the clicky texture really helps kick through a mix.


make sure you can use both well.
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if you are using a weak amp, I'd use a pick. the clicky texture really helps kick through a mix.


make sure you can use both well.



^yea, that's my current situation. i've got a little, old(ish) fender 25 watt thing, which is decently loud, but yea. i'll find out when i get it in with other instruments i guess
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#10
25 watts won't be enough for a band setting, you could probably crank everything all the way and not have it audible. Plus it would lose sound quality at high volumes on a low watt amp like that.
#11
double post maniac

and that's a practice amp, brah.
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#12
@humanity - lol i blame UG. It wouldn't let me post because i had "already posted." and so i hit it again. i'll get it though.

@edgeyyz- in the band situation i'm in, it will be fine. trust me. i use the term "band" lightly. it's going to be basically two acoustic guitars at very low volumes with singers pus a bass, all in a small environment. besides. since i don't know if i'm going to truly "stick" with bass, then i'm not going and buying gear for this lol
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#13
OK, that may work fine then, I assumed you meant with a drummer and guitarist plugged into an amp.
#14
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OK, that may work fine then, I assumed you meant with a drummer and guitarist plugged into an amp.



ah, no lol. the largest guitar amp that we may end up using is a 15watter. we will have a drum, but it's just a single African bongo sorta thing. it's pronounced jimbay, but i know that that is incredibly misspelled. oh yea, we might have a piano too...we're a hodgepodge of randomness that depends on who shows-up lol yay for college!
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#15
Learn both, there's no reason to be exclusive to one technique.
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#16
ooh. a djembe.

I love those things.
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#17
Pics are fine as long as you use it for the tone, not the ease of use
#19
BOTH of course

Finger style is cool (and sounds cooler for me) but you cant play 16 notes in tempo close to 300, then you switch to nice and familiar PICK which gets you those too
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Pics are fine as long as you use it for the tone, not the ease of use

Picks are OK to use for ease of use.. Don't be too full of your choice of playing.
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#21
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Picks are OK to use for ease of use.. Don't be too full of your choice of playing.

they do make chords a little easier for unpracticed flamenco pickers.
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#22
If you can master both fingerstyle and picking, you will definitely create a lot more possibilities for yourself in terms of sound and music styles.
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#23
I'm quite a beginner bass player, but I did play Guitar for quite a few years. That's why I use a pick when I play. But I use fingers whenever it sounds better in a song. I play metal and the picked sound seems to fit better except for when I hold out whole notes since they seem to ring out better when I pluck the string or if the guitars are played clean, then I use my fingers. I need to learn how to fingerpick better myself, it's quite fun.
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#25
When I started I played with a pic, but now I mostly play fingerstyle because I feel like it gives me more controll. I do use a pic when I want that metal high end sound.
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#26
I personally play with my fingers, but sometimes a pick just sounds better... I really should practise using a pick more
#27
If you are coming from guitar, I always recommend you learn finger style first and get that down solid. Then move to pick.

And yes, learn both.
#28
I find that with picking you get a louder sound initially, but the sustain is generally not very good. For that reason, using a pick can be good for many punk and metal songs where you're mostly bashing out 8th or 16th notes all song.

On the other hand, with fingers it seems like you have more control over your tone, and definitely more sustain. I prefer it for more melodic songs, motown, funk, etc.... I wouldn't say that fingerstyle is better then using a pick, but it is definitely much more versatile. It's good to have a pick hand handy, but I could play everything without one...
#29
Both. There's really no reason not to.
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#30
I use pick when seriously bored only...don't like it, mostly because i have got no idea how to mute strings while using pick -.-''
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#32
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I use pick when seriously bored only...don't like it, mostly because i have got no idea how to mute strings while using pick -.-''


It's all in the left hand.

I personally use fingers and pick equally. I prefer the playability of using your fingers but the tone of a pick. If there was a way of having the playability of fingers and the tone of a pick in one package, I could die a happy guy.

It's better to learn how to use both, because you would have more techniques to be able to use and therefore become a more versatile player, which is especially useful if you ever decide to do session work (or are in a particular band), as you would be prepared if you're asked to play with a pick.
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#33
you should practice on both, they both have pros and cons, I guess, it ends up in what you're more comfortable. I usually play with my fingers but a friend of mine preffers a lot more to use a pick
#34
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It's all in the left hand.

I personally use fingers and pick equally. I prefer the playability of using your fingers but the tone of a pick. If there was a way of having the playability of fingers and the tone of a pick in one package, I could die a happy guy.


Maybe a stupid suggestion (haven't tried it myself), but you could try playing with longer fingernails.
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#35
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Or does it really all depend on what the song needs?


Bingo.
You should be well versed in both methods.
#36
learn both it benefits you much later, like Metallica songs played by finger then switching to a pick for a song like beast and the harlot(just sounds better picked xD) it gives you a wider range of tones and styles to play and experiment with.
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#37
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Maybe a stupid suggestion (haven't tried it myself), but you could try playing with longer fingernails.


I've tried before. To me, it sounds nothing like a pick, and it's quite uncomfortable. But some seem to have mastered it, such as Geddy Lee.
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#38
tbh, when I play metal, even if its death metal, where bassists like the dude from death, alex webster and so on, use fingers, i think its sounds s much better with a pick.. Just so much more depth inthe sound, and no matter how hard you hit, you'll never get that sound without a pick.

Ironically, all the songs that have a death metal clank on the bass is done by the fingers, but if it were done by a pick, then it would be so much more BR00T4LZ

Upon further inspection, (by further inspection I mean not just listening to Peace sells) Dave Ellefson is teh kingzorz of pick bass in metal.

Unless there's someone else.
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