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#1
WHats a good price range or some link sfor a blues amp i can play my strat in. May be a combo of rock and roll and blues kinda like zz top
My newest cover Rivers Of Babylon sublime style.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J_E7iWLxmiA


My gear:
taylor 310
Fender strat MiM
Cry Baby-GCB-95
Tone port ux2
tascam dp4
80s rock, classic rock, classic metal
#3
Peavey Rage 158, boosted by boss metal zone


Umm on second thought


+1 to the classic 30
Amp/Effects:

Mesa Boogie Mark IV
Tc-Electronic G-system
Avatar 2x12 (Hellatone 60's)
Line6 DM4

Guitars:

EBMM JP6 BFR
EBMM JP7
Taylor 314ce
#4
Quote by _Marooned_
Peavey Rage 158, boosted by boss metal zone


Umm on second thought


+1 to the classic 30



THAT'S WHAT I USED TO HAVE! haha. Crushing overdrive that Rage had. Crushing.
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Taylor 712
#5


It wasnt till after i posted, i saw the Rage in your sigg


Hopefully you were not offended!


Cheers my friendd
Amp/Effects:

Mesa Boogie Mark IV
Tc-Electronic G-system
Avatar 2x12 (Hellatone 60's)
Line6 DM4

Guitars:

EBMM JP6 BFR
EBMM JP7
Taylor 314ce
#6
Quote by _Marooned_


It wasnt till after i posted, i saw the Rage in your sigg


Hopefully you were not offended!


Cheers my friendd


Not in the least hahaha.
Winner of the 2011 Virginia Guitar Festival

Protools HD
Lynx Aurora 16/HD192
Mojave, Sennheiser, AKG, EV etc mics
Focusrite ISA828 pres
Waves Mercury
Random Rack Gear

65 Deluxe Reverb
PRS CE 22
American Standard Strat
Taylor 712
#7
What about a fender blues jr?
Fender 70s Ri Strats w/various Dimarzios
Modded 1982 Marshall JCM800 2203

Boss DS-1,Dunlop Crybaby,MXR Phase 90,Ibanez AD9,Boss CH-1

Check out randy dobsons underground ,tell me what you think
#8
I personally don't like the Classic 30, but you might. Though IMO, the Crate V series is better by far.

Another couple of good amps to look at under a grand:

Epiphone Blues Custom 30
Ampeg Reverberocket
Ampeg J12T
Ampeg J20T
Ampeg Gemini
Gibson GA40RVT
Blackheart Handsome Devil


Over a grand, and the possibilities are damn near endless.
#9
Peavey Classic 30
Fender Blues Junior
Epiphone Blues Custom
Crate Palomino V33
Marshall Bluesbreaker

-Gibson LP VM
-Silvertone Kentucky Blue
-MXR CC Delay
-Ibanez TS-9
-Egnater Rebel 20
-Avatar 1x12

My rig is simple
Haha. UG's Chuck just said chuck. haha
You're not truly playing guitar unless you know theory.
#10
Quote by Artemis Entreri



loud?. I never owned a tube amp
My newest cover Rivers Of Babylon sublime style.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J_E7iWLxmiA


My gear:
taylor 310
Fender strat MiM
Cry Baby-GCB-95
Tone port ux2
tascam dp4
80s rock, classic rock, classic metal
#11
Quote by silly6-string
loud?. I never owned a tube amp


Yes, VERY.

Plenty for small/medium gigs.

Tube watts are MUCH louder than Solid State Watts.

5 Tube Watts = about 20 SS Watts.


Good recommendation. Excellent cleans and medium overdrive.
Perfect for blues and classic rock and some hard rock like GNR.

You'll need an overdrive or distortion pedal if you want to get into the Metal Zone..

2001 Ernie Ball Music Man Axis Super Sport
2001 MIM Standard Strat
Peavey Classic 30 112 Combo.
My Gear
Last edited by jonmo1 at Sep 8, 2009,
#12
Quote by jonmo1
Yes, VERY.

Plenty for small/medium gigs.

Tube watts are MUCH louder than Solid State Watts.

5 Tube Watts = about 20 SS Watts.


Good recommendation. Excellent cleans and medium overdrive.
Perfect for blues and classic rock and some hard rock like GNR.

You'll need an overdrive or distortion pedal if you want to get into the Metal Zone..



ya ty for the info. Im excited now its the hard part of pickin one out. I love this sound and said i want a blues amp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ny5ajCn0xw i want this sound . i play mex strat
My newest cover Rivers Of Babylon sublime style.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J_E7iWLxmiA


My gear:
taylor 310
Fender strat MiM
Cry Baby-GCB-95
Tone port ux2
tascam dp4
80s rock, classic rock, classic metal
#13
Quote by silly6-string
ya ty for the info. Im excited now its the hard part of pickin one out. I love this sound and said i want a blues amp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ny5ajCn0xw i want this sound . i play mex strat


Classic 30 my friend.

Keep in mind, you will likely NEVER sound EXACTLY like that...
There is so much more involved than the amp....
Particularly...He's playing a Les Paul, you've got a Strat.
Big difference in tone...

But the C30 will put you well on your way.
It really is a GREAT blues amp.

2001 Ernie Ball Music Man Axis Super Sport
2001 MIM Standard Strat
Peavey Classic 30 112 Combo.
My Gear
Last edited by jonmo1 at Sep 8, 2009,
#14
Quote by jonmo1


5 Tube Watts = about 20 SS Watts.

No, 5 tube watts= 5 SS watts= the 5 watts an electric toothbrush puts out= 5 watts=2 volts*2.5 amperes=1 volt*5 amps=5 volts*1 amp.

Power is power. Loudness is a different story, and other factors beside wattage deals with this, which is why tube amps can seem louder than transistor amps.
#15
Quote by jonmo1

It really is a GREAT blues amp.

I'm not going to say it's not a great blues amp, but it's definitely not for everyone. I have yet to play a Classic 30 that I liked. The Delta Blues has a similar preamp, though, and that thing is great. Much better than the Classic 30.

At the end of the day, you're going to have to go and try the amps listed here and many others to decide what you want.
#16
Quote by imgooley
No, 5 tube watts= 5 SS watts= the 5 watts an electric toothbrush puts out= 5 watts=2 volts*2.5 amperes=1 volt*5 amps=5 volts*1 amp.

Power is power. Loudness is a different story, and other factors beside wattage deals with this, which is why tube amps can seem louder than transistor amps.




That's what we're talking about, LOUDNESS...

OK, I'll rephrase....


A 5 Watt Tube Amp will have approxamately the same LOUDNESS as a 20 Watt SS Amp.

A 30 Watt Tube Amp will have approxamately the same LOUNDNESS as a 100 Watt SS Amp.


Now the numbers in this comparison will vary from one person to the next. Some think it's a bigger difference, some think it's smaller.
But I think everyone here agrees in general that Tube Watts are MUCH louder than SS Watts.

2001 Ernie Ball Music Man Axis Super Sport
2001 MIM Standard Strat
Peavey Classic 30 112 Combo.
My Gear
#17
fender blues jr

**** that peavey ****
Gear
Fender MIM strat
Epiphone G-400 in white (yeah i know, fuck you i like it)
Fender Hot Rod Deluxe
Roland Micro Cube
EHX Big Muff
Danelectro Cool Cat Distortion
EHX Nano Small Stone
Boss DD-3 Delay
Vox V847-A Wah
Radial London Bones
#18
Quote by jonmo1


That's what we're talking about, LOUDNESS...

OK, I'll rephrase....
Ok, let's see what you've got.

Quote by jonmo1
A 5 Watt Tube Amp will have approxamately the same LOUDNESS as a 20 Watt SS Amp.
No it won't
Quote by jonmo1
A 30 Watt Tube Amp will have approxamately the same LOUNDNESS as a 100 Watt SS Amp.
No it won't.


Quote by jonmo1
Now the numbers in this comparison will vary from one person to the next. Some think it's a bigger difference, some think it's smaller.
But I think everyone here agrees in general that Tube Watts are MUCH louder than SS Watts.
Wattage is not a measure of volume, so no, anyone with basic knowledge of physics would not agree to that statement.


If you've ever played a Roland JC120, you'd know that it can be as loud as a Fender Twin. If you've ever played or heard a Sunn Beta Lead or Concert Lead/Bass, you'd know that they get just as loud, if not louder, than a Peavey Windsor. Just like a NMV Superlead 100 will sound louder than a 120 watt 6505.

It's about the EQ curve, speaker efficiency, speaker voicing, headroom, compression, and a multitude of other things. To say, point blank that 'x watts tube = 4x watts transistor' is a misleading and patently false.
#19
Quote from Post #3 in this thread.
The Ultimate Gear Information Sticky:Incorporating Info on Amps, FX and Pickups
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=278232


What amplifier do I need?

That depends on whether you want a valve or solid-state amp. That decision is a matter of nothing but personal taste, but its important as follows.

One of the differences between valve and SS amps is valves sound louder to the human ear (they aren?t actually any louder they just sound it).

As a rule we have for SS:

10-30W: practice on your own.
30-50W: practice with a band or recording.
50 to 100W (or more): Gigs (as much wattage as you ever need)

And for valves:

<20W: practice on your own
20-30W Band practice/Recording
30-50W Gigging.
>50W Hearing damage.

Note there are overlaps because you can use any given wattage of amp at different volumes and for different purposes (!).


Granted, it says valves are not actually louder, but they SOUND louder, which is what matters and is the subject of this conversation.

2001 Ernie Ball Music Man Axis Super Sport
2001 MIM Standard Strat
Peavey Classic 30 112 Combo.
My Gear
#20
Quote by jonmo1
Quote from Post #3 in this thread.
The Ultimate Gear Information Sticky:Incorporating Info on Amps, FX and Pickups
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=278232



Granted, it says valves are not actually louder, but they SOUND louder, which is what matters and is the subject of this conversation.

The info in that sticky is somewhat misleading and false, at least to a certain degree. Not tube amps are alike and not all SS amps are alike, period, and there are other factors involved. A Classic 30 is not a terribly loud amp, certainly not as loud as an AC30 or an Epiphone Blues Custom 30, and is also certainly not as loud as a Vox AD50VT or a Randall RG80ES, or a Crate GX40.

Even more info: Using a 2x12 as opposed to a 1x12 gives the exact same increase in volume as doubling the watts. Increasing speaker efficiency by 3db is the same as doubling power, per speaker.

Why do tube amps seem louder than SS amps? Do you know?
#21
Unless you already have a bunch of pedals a Super Champ XD would be a great choice. Even though it's 15 watts, it's one of the best sounding amps at bedroom levels I've played.
#22
What amplifier do I need?

That depends on whether you want a valve or solid-state amp. That decision is a matter of nothing but personal taste, but its important as follows.

One of the differences between valve and SS amps is valves sound louder to the human ear (they aren?t actually any louder they just sound it).

As a rule we have for SS:

10-30W: practice on your own.
30-50W: practice with a band or recording.
50 to 100W (or more): Gigs (as much wattage as you ever need)

And for valves:

<20W: practice on your own
20-30W Band practice/Recording
30-50W Gigging.
>50W Hearing damage.

Note there are overlaps because you can use any given wattage of amp at different volumes and for different purposes (!).


That's in the sticky? Christ, what a load of bollocks - who the hell buys a 20W tube amp to practice at home? I understand things need to be simplified for n00bs, but that's absolute bulls**t..


As a rule we have for SS:

10-30W: practice on your own.
30-50W: practice with a band or recording.
50 to 100W (or more): Gigs (as much wattage as you ever need)

And for valves:

5W-15W - Recording, practice and gigging (when mic'd)
15W-100W - Recording, practice and gigging


That's my take on things...
#23
Quote by imgooley
I personally don't like the Classic 30, but you might. Though IMO, the Crate V series is better by far.

Another couple of good amps to look at under a grand:

Epiphone Blues Custom 30
Ampeg Reverberocket
Ampeg J12T
Ampeg J20T
Ampeg Gemini
Gibson GA40RVT
Blackheart Handsome Devil


Over a grand, and the possibilities are damn near endless.

i endorse this post in its entirety.
I wondered why the frisbee was getting bigger, then it hit me.
#24
Love the idiots who keep recomending a peavey classic 30 without asking him if he actually needs that amount of volume.

Do you play with a drummer?
Gear
Tokai Love Rock
Vox AC4
Danelectro Transparent Overdrive
T.C. Electronic Nova Repeater
Stomp Under Foot Violet Rams Head
#25
I used a Classic 30 at home for quite a while until I replaced it with an Ampeg J-20. It's a great amp and you don't need to turn it up. It's got separate gain and volume on the crunch channel plus an FX loop. It takes pedals as well as any amp. It's hardly an idiot recommendation because they are so plentiful used at 1/2 price.
#26
Quote by demitriv
Love the idiots who keep recomending a peavey classic 30 without asking him if he actually needs that amount of volume.

Do you play with a drummer?


Love the idiots that don't read the whole thread....

Back in post #10, TS asked if the C30 is Loud...Kinda indicating they want an amp with some volume.

2001 Ernie Ball Music Man Axis Super Sport
2001 MIM Standard Strat
Peavey Classic 30 112 Combo.
My Gear
#27
Quote by imgooley
Power is power.
Unfortunately, no it isn't. There are so many unstated factors that go into a power spec that they usually have only relative value. I.E. tube vs tube and SS vs SS.
#28
I can't beleve that only 1 other person suggested a fender amp for blues sound?? Holy crap....if I was looking to buy an amp strictly for blues/blues rock I'd defenatly get a low wattage fender tube amp so you can crank it up and get that magical tone....throw a tubescreamer on top of it....there you go....don't get much better for blues than that....
Fender 70s Ri Strats w/various Dimarzios
Modded 1982 Marshall JCM800 2203

Boss DS-1,Dunlop Crybaby,MXR Phase 90,Ibanez AD9,Boss CH-1

Check out randy dobsons underground ,tell me what you think
#29
Quote by kyle62
That's in the sticky? Christ, what a load of bollocks - who the hell buys a 20W tube amp to practice at home? I understand things need to be simplified for n00bs, but that's absolute bulls**t

My practice-at-home amp is a Mesa Boogie Mark IV. Problem?
Hi, I'm Peter
#30
Quote by Dirk Gently
My practice-at-home amp is a Mesa Boogie Mark IV. Problem?


Yeah my home practice amp is a peavy bandit 100 watt combo....I regularly piss my wife off hahahaha....sometimes on long layoffs from shows I bring the marshall home to inspect the guts and do mods if I find one and I'll put it right in the living room and go for it hahaha
Fender 70s Ri Strats w/various Dimarzios
Modded 1982 Marshall JCM800 2203

Boss DS-1,Dunlop Crybaby,MXR Phase 90,Ibanez AD9,Boss CH-1

Check out randy dobsons underground ,tell me what you think
#31
Quote by jonmo1
Love the idiots that don't read the whole thread....

Back in post #10, TS asked if the C30 is Loud...Kinda indicating they want an amp with some volume.



Yes but before that p[eople were recommending the peavey, omg epic fail.
Gear
Tokai Love Rock
Vox AC4
Danelectro Transparent Overdrive
T.C. Electronic Nova Repeater
Stomp Under Foot Violet Rams Head
#32
Quote by demitriv
Yes but before that p[eople were recommending the peavey, omg epic fail.


Epic Fail??
Really???
Why???

Why does the responsiblity of figuring out what volume the TS requires fall on the person responding????

If the TS does not specify if they want bedroom or gigging volume, why is the person making a recommendation required to ask???

2001 Ernie Ball Music Man Axis Super Sport
2001 MIM Standard Strat
Peavey Classic 30 112 Combo.
My Gear
Last edited by jonmo1 at Sep 8, 2009,
#33
Vibroverb...

Super, quad, deluxe, twin...

I'd pick a vibroverb tho.
I wondered why the frisbee was getting bigger, then it hit me.
#34
Quote by jonmo1
Epic Fail??
Really???
Why???

Why does the responsiblity of figuring out what volume the TS requires fall on the person responding????

If the TS does not specify if they want bedroom or gigging volume, why is the person making a recommendation required to ask???


Common sense mate, tehre's no point in recommending something if it will be too loud therefore its smarter to ask rather than suggest it and be told its not suitable.
Gear
Tokai Love Rock
Vox AC4
Danelectro Transparent Overdrive
T.C. Electronic Nova Repeater
Stomp Under Foot Violet Rams Head
#35
Quote by Dirk Gently
My practice-at-home amp is a Mesa Boogie Mark IV. Problem?

Quite the opposite - good on you! But the sticky suggests anything under 20W is only suitable for home practice, which is ridiculous...
#36
Quote by kyle62
Quite the opposite - good on you! But the sticky suggests anything under 20W is only suitable for home practice, which is ridiculous...


Where does it say that???

What it is saying is:
If you intend to use your amp for home practice, get <20 Watts.

it DOES NOT Say:
<20 watts is only good for home practice.

Big difference between those 2 statements..


An analogy...

If I said Water is good to prevent dehydration.
Does that mean that is the only thing water is good for??

2001 Ernie Ball Music Man Axis Super Sport
2001 MIM Standard Strat
Peavey Classic 30 112 Combo.
My Gear
#37
Quote by jonmo1
Where does it say that???

What it is saying is:
If you intend to use your amp for home practice, get <20 Watts.

it DOES NOT Say:
<20 watts is only good for home practice.

Big difference between those 2 statements..


An analogy...

If I said Water is good to prevent dehydration.
Does that mean that is the only thing water is good for??


I'm pretty sure most less knowledgeable folks would look at that and think 'right, I want to play gigs, so I need 50W'
#38
Quote by demitriv
Common sense mate, tehre's no point in recommending something if it will be too loud therefore its smarter to ask rather than suggest it and be told its not suitable.
You do know that C30's have a volume knob? I used one at home for 2 years.
#39
And a gain knob?
Gear
Tokai Love Rock
Vox AC4
Danelectro Transparent Overdrive
T.C. Electronic Nova Repeater
Stomp Under Foot Violet Rams Head
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