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#1
Does anyone know of any good online resources to master the art of Gallop Alt Picking??
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#2
Try listening to a lot of bands that do so, and use a program like powertab or GP that plays along.
#3
Galloping is pretty much just playing a series of notes, that give you that sort of gallop sound. Mostly done by playing triplets. Just learn to alternate pick well. One easy way to do it, is use an open string muted, and pick - down, up, down - down, up ,down - down, up, down. And there you go.
#4
Thanks guys! Will do tonight!!
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#5
Learn Battery, by Metallica, if you like the song. That's how I started, and I got galloping down in one or two nights.
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#6
Yes, I love that song and the four horsemen. Will do..thanks!
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Learn Battery, by Metallica, if you like the song. That's how I started, and I got galloping down in one or two nights.



Same song that made gallops "click" for me.

TS - once you get the gallop down don't forget to learn the reverse gallop.
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#8
Up, Down, Up??

Or

Down, Down, Up Down?
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#9
1, 1-2-3 - normal gallop

1-2-3, 1 - reverse gallop

the numbers are the rythm not frets
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#10
Ahh yes. Got it...Thanks!
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#12
Quote by Matt420740
Galloping is pretty much just playing a series of notes, that give you that sort of gallop sound. Mostly done by playing triplets. Just learn to alternate pick well. One easy way to do it, is use an open string muted, and pick - down, up, down - down, up ,down - down, up, down. And there you go.


Not triplets. Triplets are three evenly spaced notes. A gallop is an 8th note followed by two 16th notes. A reverse gallop is two 16th notes followed by an 8th note. They are in no way triplets. Triplet is a specific term with a specific meaning.
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Not triplets. Triplets are three evenly spaced notes. A gallop is an 8th note followed by two 16th notes. A reverse gallop is two 16th notes followed by an 8th note. They are in no way triplets. Triplet is a specific term with a specific meaning.



A gallop IS three evenly spaced notes. With a pause in between each set of three notes. In other words, Triplets. There are other ways as well, but that is the most common. Down, up, down
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#14
Picking pattern for basic gallopping:

D-U-D-(U)-D-U-D-(U) etc., (U) being a ghost stroke.

Now, to me it looks way more "sense-making" (lol) that those are two 16th notes followed by an 8th note. The triplets form is possible too, but it isn't the most common form.
The form I described is the most common form.

:edit:
the guy talking about triplets being even spaced notes meant that if you take 4 triplets in one measure, you basically going to end up with one continuous blast of 12 notes each measure, instead of the gallop effect.
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#15
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A gallop IS three evenly spaced notes. With a pause in between each set of three notes. In other words, Triplets.

Wrong. They are not evenly space, hence the pause.
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#16
Quoted from Sue's signature, 'the correct way to play the gallop'

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It is not. A gallop is an 8th note followed by 2 16th notes. The reverse gallop is two 16th notes followed by an 8th note. A triplet is three notes, usually 8th notes, played evenly in the time it would take to play two of those without the triplet; an 8th note triplet would be three notes in one beat while two 8th notes would be 2 notes in one beat. See how it works?

Picking wise, downpick whenever possible in metal. However, there are physical limitations; some some upstrokes are necessary at high speeds.

The gallop should be played D D U D D U.
The reverse gallop should be played D U D D U D.
The triplet shouls be played D U D U D U.
The bold notes are the downbeat.

Many people say you should play the triplet D U D D U D. That is stupid. If you can hit the two downstrokes in a row, man up and downpick the whole thing. This is coming from a lady you bunch of pansies!
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Quote by Matt420740
A gallop IS three evenly spaced notes. With a pause in between each set of three notes. In other words, Triplets. There are other ways as well, but that is the most common. Down, up, down


Your first two sentences are in direct contradiction with each other.

This is triplets:


This is a gallop:


This really is not debatable, so do not try to tell me that I am wrong. If you need to ask a question, that's cool, but just realize that I am correct on this.

Edit - Looking back, this post seems extremely confrontational. It's just that I wind up debating people on this matter way more than I'd like to.
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#18
^You're absolutely right. But it could be as so:

1, 2-trip-let, 3, 4-trip-let.

That's a triplet and yet it still counts as a gallop, right?
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^You're absolutely right. But it could be as so:

1, 2-trip-let, 3, 4-trip-let.

That's a triplet and yet it still counts as a gallop, right?


You mean like this?


What I posted above (one 8th followed by two 16th notes) is what is understood to be a gallop. What you described has a rhythmic effect similar to a gallop, but is not technically a gallop.
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#21
Yeah,4 Horsemen helps a lot

Maybe this video helps...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPcWLI_DjqE
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You mean like this?


What I posted above (one 8th followed by two 16th notes) is what is understood to be a gallop. What you described has a rhythmic effect similar to a gallop, but is not technically a gallop.


Well, I call it a gallop .
#23
^Listen to DaddyTwoFoot. He is right about this.
Triplets are when there are three evenly spaced notes that fill up the space of the beat. There are no gaps.
A gallop is when there is one 16th note, a gap of one 16th note, then two more 16th notes. The next note after that is the beginning of the next beat. X = note on the beat, x = note not on the beat, _ = space.
X_xxX_xxX_xxX etc.
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^Listen to DaddyTwoFoot. He is right about this.
Triplets are when there are three evenly spaced notes that fill up the space of the beat. There are no gaps.
A gallop is when there is one 16th note, a gap of one 16th note, then two more 16th notes. The next note after that is the beginning of the next beat. X = note on the beat, x = note not on the beat, _ = space.
X_xxX_xxX_xxX etc.


I'm not arguing. I know perfectly well what triplets and gallops are. I'm just being a pain in the ass.
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I come to this forum after months of being away and nothing new is being discussed. This gallop/triplet discussion has been had so many times! But DaddyTwoFoot, I can relate to sounding confrontational in a sense with a topic like this; it quite bothers me when people give incorrect advice. People who come to this forum to learn should be given truths and not misunderstandings, so it's good that you make it a point to correct.
#26
Battery and The Four Horsemen.
And if you're feeling adventurous, try That Was Just Your Life.
#27
hey, uh, i dunno if anyone else has suggested it yet but I'm think Battery and The Four horsemen.
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Quote by Matt420740
A gallop IS three evenly spaced notes. With a pause in between each set of three notes. In other words, Triplets. There are other ways as well, but that is the most common. Down, up, down


No, the man is right. There's a difference between galloping and doing triplets. There's a tiny pause between each gallop, whereas triplets are an ongoing stream of notes with no pauses inbetween.

When it comes to doing triplets in alternate picking, Cold from At The Gates is a very good training. At The Gates songs from the album Slaughter Of The Soul are all great alternate picking excercises to begin with.
#30
so really, are triplets just tremolo picking? (when it's being alt picked I mean)
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#31
well i guess there's a triplet gallop and a sixteenth gallop. Triplet would be like,
1-(trip)-let-2-(trip)-let, like dun-dahdun-dahdun. Sixteenth gallop is dun-duhduhdun-duhduhdun, like 1-(e)-and-uh-2-(e)-and-uh. Triplets are three evenly spaced notes in a beat, sixteenth notes are four in a beat. You just take one of the sixteenth notes out and it gives you three note groupings of sixteenth notes, not triplets.
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well i guess there's a triplet gallop and a sixteenth gallop. Triplet would be like,
1-(trip)-let-2-(trip)-let, like dun-dahdun-dahdun. Sixteenth gallop is dun-duhduhdun-duhduhdun, like 1-(e)-and-uh-2-(e)-and-uh. Triplets are three evenly spaced notes in a beat, sixteenth notes are four in a beat. You just take one of the sixteenth notes out and it gives you three note groupings of sixteenth notes, not triplets.


That's just a swing feel with a kind of staccato feel.
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#34
so really, are triplets just tremolo picking? (when it's being alt picked I mean)


Is thrash metal triplets tremolo picked? I am sure there is a thread on this somewhere but this is my third search on dial-up and I'm tired as hell. That is how I always played them. I meant to ask teach today. I wouldn't believe that Hetfield or Mustaine could have alternate picked those early thrash rhythms. There is a big difference between alternate picking those triplets and tremolo picking them. This is why most thrash rhythm players can play rhythm fast but not solos.
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#35
When I gallop I use pure alternate picking

down-up-down-up-down-up etc.
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There is a big difference between alternate picking those triplets and tremolo picking them.


Alternate picking is a technique, tremolo picking is a sonic effect generally achieved by fast alternate picking.
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The Trooper as mentioned, is a good place to start
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