#1
So upon entering my band's jamspace last night I go to turn on my amp (a glorious, beautiful, and expensive ENGL Powerball) only to notice that it's wet. Really wet. Apparently the the drain pipe running from the bathroom upstairs down to the basement had been leaking all over my precious for over a day. ****! What makes matters worse is that it is WASTE WATER from the toilet. GROSS! So beyond just having a tube amp completely drenched, it's also now covered is pissy and ****ty water. Wonderful...

Needless to say jam was cancelled as there was no way in hell I was turning that amp on. We opened up the back and toweled off the lake on top and inside the amp. The only thing that was really exposed was the tubes as the rest of the innards are "sealed" away inside. However, I'm not entirely confident that NO water got on the inside, and there is no real way to get in to check without ripping the whole thing apart.

Obviously I am going to take out the tubes and clean the disgusting son of a bitch, but I'm more worried about functionality. I would assume (and hope) since the amp was off that no permanent damage has been caused, but I'm uneasy about turning it on to find out. We put some floodlights on it for the night to help dry it out, but I'm unsure of how long I should wait to insure it's completely dry before I flick the switch. My bassist is bringing his spare TSL tomorrow so at least I'll have an amp to use, so I am in no rush. My ENGL is my baby. I don't wanna take any unecessary risk by rushing the "recuperation" process.

Any suggestions/recommendations/similar horror stories?
Last edited by Erkekjetter at Sep 9, 2009,
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#3
i actually took a crap on my amp....it is only an MG so it deserved it lol
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sorry


I'd take as much of it apart as you can (safely) and pull the chassis out and put as many fans as you can find on it. Urine has acid in it that will eat metal and components for breakfast.

If you have the money - I'd take it in and get it professionally overhauled.


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#9
It needs to go in for a professional cleaning. If any urine got into the PCB it could crystallize there; those crystals are conductive, which could absolutely and irreparably destroy the amp. It's not a likely scenario, given that it was watered down and all, but someone who knows what they're doing should probably go through it and safely wipe down everything that got wet.
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Quote by Roc8995
It needs to go in for a professional cleaning. If any urine got into the PCB it could crystallize there; those crystals are conductive, which could absolutely and irreparably destroy the amp. It's not a likely scenario, given that it was watered down and all, but someone who knows what they're doing should probably go through it and safely wipe down everything that got wet.

Yup. ^This.

OP - Buy some de-oxit (radio shack electronics cleaner). You can spray this stuff over the PCB boards to clean it up real good. It dries fast and is safe on any part of the amp but the tolex and tubes. Go get some, it will be a life saver for you. You'll see what I mean when you start using it.
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OP - Buy some de-oxit (radio shack electronics cleaner). You can spray this stuff over the PCB boards to clean it up real good. It dries fast and is safe on any part of the amp but the tolex and tubes. Go get some, it will be a life saver for you. You'll see what I mean when you start using it.


Thanks for the tip! Assuming it doesn't prove to difficult to get inside the amp I'll definitely pick some up and give her a good scrub down. Although, depending on the cost I may just opt to get it professionally cleaned instead as has been suggested. It would likely be less hassle and most likely safer.
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Try running a fan into the back for a couple days, and maybe remove the faceplate if you can, to let air flow through.

A few days and anything that was there will be gone...However, urine is full of minerals, and may leave a residue...

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#13
If nothing else, now, when your band plays, you'll be forever be remembered as the band who's amps smell like piss.
#14
ohhhh man thats upsetting!!

Definatly let it dry for at least a week. That would hurt so much....i feel for you!

Is the amp insured under your house insurance? I'm in the process of doing that on mine...so if anything happens as a result of the house, its usually covered.
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Well... personally... i'd handle it by probably at first sight, throwing a total rage fit and yelling at the amp and the plumbing. Then I'd probably cry and wonder how long it will take to save up to buy a new amp. While I am being a big baby my wife would probably be smart and call someone to have it checked over professionally. I would then owe her neck rubs or something.

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Obviously I am going to take out the tubes and clean the disgusting son of a bitch, but


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Doesn't the place have insurance...?

That'd be where I start
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#17
Normally I'd say to fix things yourself but with this case I'd say you should go get it professionally cleaned. Tube amps store electricity even when they are off so if you touch the wrong thing you're dead. Seriously, Take it to a shop to get it cleaned and fixed, if necessary. Oh and where is your jamspace, In the basement or something? You'll also want to talk with whoever owns the building.
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Doesn't the place have insurance...?

That'd be where I start


Yes it does. We haven't checked if it is covered (and I would imagine it most likely is), but it would also require a significant deductible to make a claim. We've already determined that it is NOT covered by the Home Warranty (even though the plumbing should be, and thus any damage it causes should be as well). Our vocalist's wife (who are the house owners) called the company who installed the plumbing to get them to come and fix it, but they wanted $98 just to come take a look at it. They want to get PAID just to take a LOOK at a job that THEY did WRONG in the first place. Horse****. So "we" are likely going to get someone else to come and fix it and if the amp winds up being is dead we will then sue the idiots for damages.

BUT...

Somewhat reassuring news. We have determined that the leak was actually not from the toilet, but rather the sink in the upstairs bathroom. So while I still plan on letting the amp dry out for a week or so it looks like I won't have to breakdown and pay to get it cleaned.
Last edited by Erkekjetter at Sep 10, 2009,
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Quote by Erkekjetter

Somewhat reassuring news. We have determined that the leak was actually not from the toilet, but rather the sink in the upstairs bathroom. So while I still plan on letting the amp dry out for a week or so it looks like I won't have to breakdown and pay to get it cleaned.


Thats Excellent news! Good to hear! Nothing worse than an amp that smells like burning piss

Good luck with the drying process, hope it works out for ya
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#21
Roc is right. The board needs to be cleaned.

Also, i would straight up replace the tubes. Its not even worth the potential trouble of smell and failure. whatever residue that sticks on that glass will be affected by the extreme heat and probably crack the glass.
#22
If you really wanna be safe, you could ret lying the head on its face, taking the back off, and filling it with dry rice.
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Silica gel?

Get some bags of them, sdhould be cheap, and place it on the PCB?


in that case, go to your auto parts store, pick up a "receiver dryer dessicant bag", used in the air conditioning system. basically just a large amount of silica gel. pretty cheap as well
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in that case, go to your auto parts store, pick up a "receiver dryer dessicant bag", used in the air conditioning system. basically just a large amount of silica gel. pretty cheap as well
Genius! I'm going to get some now, and I don't even need it!

Still a very sad thread though...
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