#1
I have recently been envolved in some trades, becouse I have gear that doesnt suits me, well, the last one is my head, the spider valve, too versatile and too many features that i dont really need, and I've been offered a JCM 900, a modern one, so.... I manly play thrash stuff and mastodon, does it suits me???' the other counterpart is a LEgacy head with a bunch of pedals
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- JCM 900 SL-X and SV MKII 100HD with LIne 6 sv412
-Bunch of pedals ( WD,BM,NR-2...)
-Ibanez Universe uv777pbk,Rg 2550&321mh
-http://backtorlyeh.bandcamp.com/
#3
too versatile and too many features that i dont really need


Hmm, first time I've heard those as a reasons to NOT have a Spider (especially a Spider Valve).


but anyway, yes the JCM 900 should do you well. From what I understand, it's pretty much built for metal..

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#4
If you get one, make sure it's a Mark III. The SL-X is also acceptable, IMO.

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the jcm 900 will play what you are after but the jcm 800 is better for the job


Not unboosted or unmodded.
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#5
Hmm, first time I've heard those as a reasons to NOT have a Spider (especially a Spider Valve).


but anyway, yes the JCM 900 should do you well. From what I understand, it's pretty much built for metal..


jaja I realiced that I dont really need 5 cleans and 4 channels and effects, becouse im playing very straight, amp-wah-gueetar
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- JCM 900 SL-X and SV MKII 100HD with LIne 6 sv412
-Bunch of pedals ( WD,BM,NR-2...)
-Ibanez Universe uv777pbk,Rg 2550&321mh
-http://backtorlyeh.bandcamp.com/
#6
The offer is for a straight up trade? That sounds great.
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Quote by Adrian89
jaja I realiced that I dont really need 5 cleans and 4 channels and effects, becouse im playing very straight, amp-wah-gueetar


Don't get me wrong, I understand your reason completely. I'm just saying that around UG, people have lots of other reasons to get rid of their Spiders. And usually not such nice reasons....

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#8
yeah, no money. like all my summer trades!! ( I trade my boss gt-8 plus a marshall mg 15 for a handmade german les paul new, here in spain, people dont know a lot about music gear.... that's why I ask a lot here, to invest my knowledge. The shops here just try to make money.
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- JCM 900 SL-X and SV MKII 100HD with LIne 6 sv412
-Bunch of pedals ( WD,BM,NR-2...)
-Ibanez Universe uv777pbk,Rg 2550&321mh
-http://backtorlyeh.bandcamp.com/
#9
I got a 900 myself mate (although mine has been modded since I got it) yes it will suit you. If you were to get an OD pedal aswell you can go just about as heavy as you'll ever need/want to go.
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#10
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I say go for it then. The 900 is a little less versatile but it is pretty well geared towards what you want. With a boost I think it would be perfect for you. I heard two bands last weekend using these and both had great tones.
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#11
I had a 900 for 3 years. It doesn't have the low end for that kind of stuff... or the voicing... or the gain. I've heard the MKIII's are great, but I honestly reckon you're better with the spider valve. Turn the ****er up, and see if you feel any differently. My 900 always had this harshness that I couldn't dial out. Might have been the housing, but there was always this edge to the sound that I really didn't like. Never cut through a live mix well either, and I LIKE my mids too.
Maybe a Randall RG50tc?
In terms of metal sounds, I reckon the 900 would be a step backwards.
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#12
I had a 900 for 3 years. It doesn't have the low end for that kind of stuff... or the voicing... or the gain. I've heard the MKIII's are great, but I honestly reckon you're better with the spider valve. Turn the ****er up, and see if you feel any differently. My 900 always had this harshness that I couldn't dial out. Might have been the housing, but there was always this edge to the sound that I really didn't like. Never cut through a live mix well either, and I LIKE my mids too.
Maybe a Randall RG50tc?
In terms of metal sounds, I reckon the 900 would be a step backwards.



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TH3 G3Ar
- JCM 900 SL-X and SV MKII 100HD with LIne 6 sv412
-Bunch of pedals ( WD,BM,NR-2...)
-Ibanez Universe uv777pbk,Rg 2550&321mh
-http://backtorlyeh.bandcamp.com/
#13
Quote by jimbob78
I had a 900 for 3 years. It doesn't have the low end for that kind of stuff... or the voicing... or the gain. I've heard the MKIII's are great, but I honestly reckon you're better with the spider valve. Turn the ****er up, and see if you feel any differently. My 900 always had this harshness that I couldn't dial out. Might have been the housing, but there was always this edge to the sound that I really didn't like. Never cut through a live mix well either, and I LIKE my mids too.
Maybe a Randall RG50tc?
In terms of metal sounds, I reckon the 900 would be a step backwards.

Did you ever turn it up past 2 on the Master? 6 is where Marshalls really start to sing.

Even with the tone squashed to hell at bedroom level through the Weber, the 800 sounds ridiculously fat and middy at 7 Master, Pre 7.5.
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#14
I always had the master high, and set the channel volume accordingly. It didn't have the balls that your 800 has. I've got a friend with a single channel jcm 800 combo, which absolutely slaughtered my 900. Problem is, most people sticking up for the 900 are bandwagoning, or own it and feel they have to defend it. It's a reasonable amp. It's not an 800.
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Back on topic - I'd stick with the Spider valve for now.

EDIT: This was with the master up and the channel volume down.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fer8KqzZzkE
Problem was, it just didn't get better as I turned the channel volume up.
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#15
^ Hiwatts are awesome. Well done.
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#16
Cheers mate. I rather like the 2204 head you have. I still reckon single channel 800's are amazing value. They have so much balls. Very few amps can stand up to them when played live.
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#17
I also been checking a HD 147 from line 6... but... i dont know Because of the transistors..
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- JCM 900 SL-X and SV MKII 100HD with LIne 6 sv412
-Bunch of pedals ( WD,BM,NR-2...)
-Ibanez Universe uv777pbk,Rg 2550&321mh
-http://backtorlyeh.bandcamp.com/
#18
Has anybody tried the HD 147???? can it does the job for thrash metal better than a SV?
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- JCM 900 SL-X and SV MKII 100HD with LIne 6 sv412
-Bunch of pedals ( WD,BM,NR-2...)
-Ibanez Universe uv777pbk,Rg 2550&321mh
-http://backtorlyeh.bandcamp.com/
#19
Quote by britishsligean
the jcm 900 will play what you are after but the jcm 800 is better for the job


JCM800's would need modding and boosting, Marshall essentially made the JCM900 to try and cater to the shredders that were modding their 800's.

If it is the MKIII it's going to do it really, really well. Other ones I haven't any experience with.
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#20
its a JCM 900 SL-X single channel, and the other options are a Carvin legacy plus a booster and a Line 6 HD 147
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- JCM 900 SL-X and SV MKII 100HD with LIne 6 sv412
-Bunch of pedals ( WD,BM,NR-2...)
-Ibanez Universe uv777pbk,Rg 2550&321mh
-http://backtorlyeh.bandcamp.com/
#21
people, sorry for looking disrespectfull, but I cant get a JCM 800, just those 3 amp i've said before
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- JCM 900 SL-X and SV MKII 100HD with LIne 6 sv412
-Bunch of pedals ( WD,BM,NR-2...)
-Ibanez Universe uv777pbk,Rg 2550&321mh
-http://backtorlyeh.bandcamp.com/
#22
JCM 900 all the way man

i have a 4500 50 watt JCM 900 head, i play thrash metal, lotta Slayer and my own bands stuff which is very slayer like.

my exact rig is:

guitar: BC Rich Kerry King Sig V - Marshall JCM 900 - MXR 108 EQ in the FX loop. thats it.

this will get you a crazy thrash tone, i F**KING LOVE IT.

if your using passive pickups you WILL have to turn the master way up to get the gain to really burn. if you use EMG`s you wont have a problem at all at any level.

me and the otehr guitarest in my band both use JCM900 heads.
#23
Im playing with passives mainly, with the JCM is a 10band eq or a booster needed no?
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- JCM 900 SL-X and SV MKII 100HD with LIne 6 sv412
-Bunch of pedals ( WD,BM,NR-2...)
-Ibanez Universe uv777pbk,Rg 2550&321mh
-http://backtorlyeh.bandcamp.com/
#24
I like the 800 better but a friend of mine has a 900 dual reverb?(Don't know **** about 900s ) and it has a pretty good variety a sounds....the gain seems a little thinner though
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#26
Quote by Adrian89
Im playing with passives mainly, with the JCM is a 10band eq or a booster needed no?


are they needed .. no there not.

BUT i do HIGHLY recommed them.

i just plugged my Fender Squier HM3 in with the passive Dimazzio pickups, just so i could answer you better.

the gain is still there, and there alot. just it doesn`t have the rip your face off bite that EMG`s have.

i would have to say get a EMG 81 installed in your guitar if your playing thrash, The 81 is the Thrash metal pickup.
#27
The sl-x was designed for high gain man....weezer used to use them on the first few records
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#28
I have a single pick up Rg with a 81, but she's not my main guitar, whatever, the line 6 hd 147 wont sound very well live no? just a home and recording amp?
TH3 G3Ar
- JCM 900 SL-X and SV MKII 100HD with LIne 6 sv412
-Bunch of pedals ( WD,BM,NR-2...)
-Ibanez Universe uv777pbk,Rg 2550&321mh
-http://backtorlyeh.bandcamp.com/
#29
never heard the HD 147 but i`m pretty sure thats a SS amp. which if there anything like the spider amps there TERRIBLE... the ONLY good spider is the one you have, which i`ve played and is a CRAZY amp, but just WAY to much too it.

the Vetta is the only good SS Line 6 amp i`ve heard.

As for the JCM 900 SL-X never played one but since it`s a JCM 900 with MORE gain LOL... i`d have to recommed it.

which Series of JCM 900 are you getting in this trade??

4500/4100/SL-X ??
#30
the one with 1 channel, 100/50 watts and Extended Soloist series ( Sl-X) no reverb
TH3 G3Ar
- JCM 900 SL-X and SV MKII 100HD with LIne 6 sv412
-Bunch of pedals ( WD,BM,NR-2...)
-Ibanez Universe uv777pbk,Rg 2550&321mh
-http://backtorlyeh.bandcamp.com/
#32
SL-X if you don't need the versatility. The HD147 is a great amp, don't let anyone tell you otherwise but if you don't want all the versatility, just stick to the SL-X.
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#34
I had a JCM900 4100 head for a while. It lacked good bottom end it could have used a little more gain. Beautifull cleans for sure. I also noticed it wasn't a very loud amp for a 100w tube amp. My 50w VHT Pittbull was basically just as loud, and my other 100w heads are louder for some reason.

I've never played a mark 3 or an SLX 900, but would definantly not rule out an SL-X purchase in the future, those are supposed to be pretty decent.
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#35
and maybe.... a 1990 by bugera ???? and keep my SV or the JCM sl-x will be an awsome amp for thrash
TH3 G3Ar
- JCM 900 SL-X and SV MKII 100HD with LIne 6 sv412
-Bunch of pedals ( WD,BM,NR-2...)
-Ibanez Universe uv777pbk,Rg 2550&321mh
-http://backtorlyeh.bandcamp.com/
#36
dude gor for the JCM900. i have the JCM900 Sl-X 2100(100 watts) super lead. it has ALOT of gain in the amp. the only modding to my amp that i really did was a clarity mod to make is less fizzy. other then that man the amp is flipping awsome. i have a few clips on my page
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#37
Yeah the 900 is good, I prefer the JCM800 but the 900 is still awesome.
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