#1
So I was at band practice yesterday, and while everyone was taking a break, I decided to plug into the other guitarists Line 6 Spider. Just for kicks, since I'd never played on before and heard all the bad press it's been getting.

As soon as I started playing I put it on the "Metal" setting and the first thing I notice was it does sound very digital, but I actually kind of liked it (Seriously, I'm not a troll). I started just messing around playing some solos and I noticed It's much easier to get good sounding pinch harmonics than even on my Mesa.

Don't get me wrong, I love my Mesa but I was just kind of intrugued about the Spider's tone. I was playing with his Epi SG, so that could make a little difference but most of the tone is from the amp.

Anyway, it's not that I like the Spider better, I just think It gets more bad press than it deserves. I could definately hear how it sounds 'digital', but I don't think it's nessecarily a bad thing. I actually jammed on it for a good 20 minutes. And I didn't mind the cleans at all.

I don't know, that's just my two cents. Sorry about the rant. And no this isn't supposed to be a "Why does everybody hate the spider thread"
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#2
its possible that you're crazy

I got a much better metal tone running a boss MT2 into the clean channel, thats just me though.
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#3
I kind of agree.
I see why the spider gets neg rep, as I own a spider III, but it really isn't all that bad.
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#4
The "Metal" setting isn't actually that bad (without any effects), well, it is pretty bad, but the rest is just even worse and gives me a headache...
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#5
To each their own. I've used Spiders many times before at my friend's houses and they sound like a fizzy mess.
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#6
i used to have a spider. then i sold it and got a vypyr of the same size (i like the effects on it). In a perfect world i would have a Marshall and a bunch of pedals. but because im 13 and have no money, i need a digital amp so i can get effects and stuff for a lot less $$$ than pedals
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#7
You're not tone deaf. A friend of mine has one and it actually sounds quite good. He is an awesome guitarist though.
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#8
i actually kind of agree. i have a spider III and i think it gets more bad press than it deserves. Granted, it's not a great amp, and there are many other amps i would much rather have, but it's not like spiders are expensive or anything. you get what you pay for.
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#9
I agree. Spiders are pretty awesome practice amps, and maybe even for small gigs. They're not that bad.
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#10
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You're not tone deaf. A friend of mine has one and it actually sounds quite good. He is an awesome guitarist though.

Well so am I....maybe that's what I was hearing
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#11
It gets a bad rap because, like all digital amps and effects, it usually only sounds good with no gain or with stupid high gain. Anything in the middle (like 'overdrive', rather than 'distortion') sounds fake.

Also, people rag on Line 6 because all the teenage punks that think they're Ultra Metal Rock Gods play them. It's like assuming the owner of a Carlos Santana PRS is a rich guy that can't play well. Not necessarily true, but you've got about 5:1 odds of being right in either case.
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#13
just too much digi for me, although when i played one at GC it seemed to nail Syn's tone when he plays live

its alright for certain things i guess. i dont see myself buying one though. if you like the sound then why not get it?

and if was playing a mesa, then played a line 6, and thought the line 6 wwas "good". i would feel really wierd about myself..
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#14
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and if was playing a mesa, then played a line 6, and thought the line 6 wwas "good". i would feel really wierd about myself..


You've obviously never heard a Vetta or HD147.

And no, the Spiders aren't THAT bad, but they're made double bad by the m3g4br00t4l kids who use them.
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#15
wow, it's like UG is all grown up now and is tired of mud slinging or something. personally, i feel if you want to play at lower volumes, then those digital modelers will most likely sound good. but a good tube amp cranked to the 'appropriate' playing volume to unlock all the tonal goodness will be more organic in a mix. that is all though, i do not think nasty things about digital effects and modelers. do you know how loud you have to get a tube amp for those harmonics to leap from a guitar like those digital modelers? why am i asking, of course you do, you made the observation that pinch harmonics are way easier on digital modelers. it cuz it's modeling the tone of a tube amp at high volume. sweet. just wish they could get digital to have more musical feedback.
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#16
Yeah. And my bandd always tells me to turn down so we can hear the other guitarist.... I just wish he'd get a new amp so we could all turn up and sound good
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#17
in general tube amps have a higher perceived loudness. really digital sounds fine until you place it next to a tube amp live, then you wonder where all the line 6 guitar tone went to. it's under the tube amp somewhere. i feel this is not just the fact that tube amps are louder per wattage rating, it is something with the tone. still, those harmonics leap.
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#18
there's a lot of compression and gain. who doesn't like it?

it's really good upfront just like snack foods are. but looking deeper into it, they're fizzy and undefined, just like snack foods are full of fat, calories, carbs, etc.
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#19
The amp I use mostly while practicing with my band is a Line 6. It's digital, but I'm not sure exactly what model. It's an older one, and I think it's brilliant. It has two Celestion speakers and sounds quite sexy, although that's next to a completely stock Peavey Bandit 112 with a cheapo Dean and Boss Mega Distortion fed into it, which sounds quite like a fart amplified through a bucket of sand.
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#20
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there's a lot of compression and gain. who doesn't like it?

it's really good upfront just like snack foods are. but looking deeper into it, they're fizzy and undefined, just like snack foods are full of fat, calories, carbs, etc.



What a beautiful analogy.


Also, if you use the same amp everyday and try a different amp another day, you're immediately going to like it because its unusual to your ears.
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#21
I can't stand the digital sound you get from it. I've A/B'd it with my Valvetronix amp, and it's a world of difference. The cleans sound disgusting, the distortion is fizzy, and the overdrive is just a mess. Insane is only good for tapping.

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#22
Spiders are great practice amps, affordable, and trillions of things to try.

But you will never ever ever ever ever ever see me play one live. I'd only buy the 30 watt version for practice. Nothing more.

Did I say ever?