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Is the humiliation worth it?
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#3
weed
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#4
Nah everyone will think I'm a pussy if I don't beat the **** out of my lungs.
Goodness gracious me!
#5
I've used one, they're pretty good. Doesn't feel quite the same as a cig. You don't notice it breathing it in, but blowing it out you do.
#7
Bull****, no way should he be allowed to say that it is the "healthy way to smoke". Wrong. It's not healthy. Nicotine itself, nevermind tobacco or any of the other chemicals in cigarettes, is harmful. Nicotine puts a strain on one's circulatory system and is more addictive (and harmful) than opiates (heroin addicts typically give up after 10 years, smokers will stay smoking with one lung).
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#9
That actually seems pretty awesome.
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#10
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smoke some dank weed

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#11
From the looks of it its just a tiny vaporiser. Not a bad idea though.
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#13
yeah it's just a vaporizer, big deal.
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#14
It's just a vaporizer, you don't get all the tar/carbon monoxide from combustion but you still get the nicotine, and nicotine is the worst part about cigarettes.

A safe alternative to tobacco is weed
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#15
It's a piece of ****. Seriously, the cheap ones are made to look like a cigarette. My brother got a high class one that looks like a freakin' gadget, but works good. The one's in the video are crap.

And it's not an alternative to tobacco, it's an alternative to smoking a cigarette. In the cartridges you put in the E cig, there's tabacco in it. It's the tar that isn't there, so it's safer.
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#17
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Hey, you're back. Did you finally make that song?


no, ZC got tired of waiting and just made me promise to post it on my profile and pm it to him when i finally finish it
#18
Quote by RyanDV
It's just a vaporizer, you don't get all the tar/carbon monoxide from combustion but you still get the nicotine, and nicotine is the worst part about cigarettes.

A safe alternative to tobacco is weed


Its the worst part in cigarettes because by getting you addicted to it, it forces you to inhale the tar and chemicals in the tobacco. Remove the tar and chemicals but keep the nicotine and you have something that is probably more addictive (because it is almost pure nicotine) but probably not as damaging to the lungs. So technically it is healthier than smoking a cigarette.
Not counting the addictiveness, it is also probably healthier for your lungs than a joint...
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Its the worst part in cigarettes because by getting you addicted to it, it forces you to inhale the tar and chemicals in the tobacco. Remove the tar and chemicals but keep the nicotine and you have something that is probably more addictive (because it is almost pure nicotine) but probably not as damaging to the lungs. So technically it is healthier than smoking a cigarette.
Not counting the addictiveness, it is also probably healthier for your lungs than a joint...


its WAY healthier than a joint. everyone seems to think that weed is totally healthy, and while it is much better than cigarettes, it is still very unhealthy.
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Its the worst part in cigarettes because by getting you addicted to it, it forces you to inhale the tar and chemicals in the tobacco. Remove the tar and chemicals but keep the nicotine and you have something that is probably more addictive (because it is almost pure nicotine) but probably not as damaging to the lungs. So technically it is healthier than smoking a cigarette.
Not counting the addictiveness, it is also probably healthier for your lungs than a joint...

Healthier for your lungs but still terribly bad for your circulatory system, which you need to live and stuff.
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Healthier for your lungs but still terribly bad for your circulatory system, which you need to live and stuff.


Also true. Which is why I'll stick to a joint thanks.
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its WAY healthier than a joint. everyone seems to think that weed is totally healthy, and while it is much better than cigarettes, it is still very unhealthy.


contradiction

you say weed is safer than cigarettes, but then you say vaporized tobacco is healther than weed, which is very untrue.

and how is weed still " very unhealthy " ?
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#23
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Healthier for your lungs but still terribly bad for your circulatory system, which you need to live and stuff.


And so is car exhaust, but you still drive on the road, right?

Seriously man, life is bad for you. If you think smoking is fun, then by all means, go for it. Everything has risks. You could get in a car accident and die, but you still drive. Just like you could get a circulatory disease and die, but some people still smoke.
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#24
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Bull****, no way should he be allowed to say that it is the "healthy way to smoke". Wrong. It's not healthy. Nicotine itself, nevermind tobacco or any of the other chemicals in cigarettes, is harmful. Nicotine puts a strain on one's circulatory system and is more addictive (and harmful) than opiates (heroin addicts typically give up after 10 years, smokers will stay smoking with one lung).
Before 10 years are up a heroin addict either looks like this:




Or like this:

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#25
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contradiction

you say weed is safer than cigarettes, but then you say vaporized tobacco is healther than weed, which is very untrue.


Because herb still makes tar when you burn it. Its not as bad as the tar made by tobacco mind you but it still isn't very good for you. Vaporised tobacco doesn't have any tar whereas burned weed does. That is why it is healthier (at least on the lungs). Of course if you were to vaporise your weed then it would be healthier than the vaporised tobacco.

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and how is weed still " very unhealthy " ?


See above. Although I would call it VERY unhealthy.
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Because herb still makes tar when you burn it. Its not as bad as the tar made by tobacco mind you but it still isn't very good for you. Vaporised tobacco doesn't have any tar whereas burned weed does. That is why it is healthier (at least on the lungs). Of course if you were to vaporise your weed then it would be healthier than the vaporised tobacco.


See above. Although I would call it VERY unhealthy.



read this

http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_health2.shtml
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Trust me I've read it before. From my understanding, those radioactive elements are mostly present in the tar that can be avoided by using one of these devices. Of course there still might be small amounts in the vapor but it will still be much healthier. That being said, tar in your lungs, radioactive or not , is still bad for you which is why ganja smoke isn't the completely harmless thing a lot of people somehow think it is.

Plus then there is the fact unless the herb you get is grown organically, there is a pretty high chance there are going to be some wierd chemicals in that as well.

Oh and in case you missed it, that article does make it quite clear that tar from tobacco smoke (which this device we are discussing removes from the equasion) is what makes the radioactive elements in commercial tobacco so dangerous.
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#29
So when can we get some thc filled cartridges for these things?
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#30
Thos electric cigarette things are pretty lame in my eyes. My buddy has one and yes I suppose it gives you a nicotine fix, and apparently you can smoke them in places where smoking is not allowed; ive heard you can smoke them on planes and such, but it doesn't even begin to compare to smoking an actual cigarette.
I say if you like to smoke, at least do it right don't mess around with these silly electric things. If you're worried about the negative health effects of cigarettes, then quit smoking, simple as.
#31
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So when can we get some thc filled cartridges for these things?


Why wait? They already make vaporisers like this that don't use cartridges so you can just pop some high grade in the end and puff it like a spliff.
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#33
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Trust me I've read it before. From my understanding, those radioactive elements are mostly present in the tar that can be avoided by using one of these devices. Of course there still might be small amounts in the vapor but it will still be much healthier. That being said, tar in your lungs, radioactive or not , is still bad for you which is why ganja smoke isn't the completely harmless thing a lot of people somehow think it is.

Plus then there is the fact unless the herb you get is grown organically, there is a pretty high chance there are going to be some wierd chemicals in that as well.

Oh and in case you missed it, that article does make it quite clear that tar from tobacco smoke (which this device we are discussing removes from the equasion) is what makes the radioactive elements in commercial tobacco so dangerous.


well I don't know anybody who grows their weed with radioactive chemicals. But ganja is physically practically harmless. people who smoke everyday only have a deficiency of their lungs of average 3%. it doesn't kill brain cells. it doesn't cause cancer ( it actually is a very effective treatment for it ). It brings the chances of a few diseases upwards, but it's not a case of if you smoke everyday, this is going to happen to you. There is a relationship between it and schizophrenia, but yet the population of pot smokers has greatly increased in the few decades, but yet the percentage of schizo patients have actually slightly decreased.
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Weed. No disease has ever been reported as a result of marijuana smoke, AND it gets you high


Hate to do this, but bull****. It might be safer than cigs, but it's not safe. Tar is tar, and cancer is cancer. Do the math.
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#35
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Hate to do this, but bull****. It might be safer than cigs, but it's not safe. Tar is tar, and cancer is cancer. Do the math.


the relationship between tar and cancer is non-linear.
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#36
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I don't know man, Iggy Pop is a sixty-something year old ex-heroin addict, and he looks pretty good.
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well I don't know anybody who grows their weed with radioactive chemicals. But ganja is physically practically harmless. people who smoke everyday only have a deficiency of their lungs of average 3%. it doesn't kill brain cells. it doesn't cause cancer ( it actually is a very effective treatment for it ). It brings the chances of a few diseases upwards, but it's not a case of if you smoke everyday, this is going to happen to you. There is a relationship between it and schizophrenia, but yet the population of pot smokers has greatly increased in the few decades, but yet the percentage of schizo patients have actually slightly decreased.


Believe me, I know all this. I know it is beneficial in some ways to the lungs and the respiratory system but in other ways it is damaging. I know it doesn't cause cancer and it is no way as dangerous as tobacco smoke but it is still not entirely healthy.

You are kind of preaching to the quior here to be honest...
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#39
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Believe me, I know all this. I know it is beneficial in some ways to the lungs and the respiratory system but in other ways it is damaging. I know it doesn't cause cancer and it is no way as dangerous as tobacco smoke but it is still not entirely healthy.

You are kind of preaching to the quior here to be honest...


hm ?
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#40
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hm ?


You try spelling that word after two spliffs and then get back to me.
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