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#1
Looking for a new axe. I play all sorts of old rock. I like Gary Moore, Joe Bonamassa, Guthrie Govan etc. Quite a bit of blues, and I play guitar in a covers band playing some poppier stuff (Fleetwood Mac, Beatles etc).

My main guitar is a Tokai lS150. Don't know if I got particularly lucky, but it's incredible. I want something that will be very easy and enjoyable to play, be fairly versatile, and have an incredible lead tone. Still not sure if I want a whammy. I prefer the sound of a fixed bridge guitar, but then again, I don't have any guitars with a trem.
Also, I don't play a line 6 spider, I play a Hiwatt studio stage head and 2x12 fane loaded cab.

Been looking at a few custom builders, Suhr, Vigier, Tom Anderson, PRS (although I haven't played one that sounded as good as my Tokai), some discontinued Guild electrics, Hamer, some high end Washburns, ESP horizon etc. I'm not after another Les Paul type, but I do like a warm, vintagey lead tone, and am not paying that much money for an ugly guitar (Parker fly etc).


Throw some ideas at me, and any personal experiences would be great.

Cheers.
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#3
Holy crap, is that seriously your budget? 2500? is that pounds or euros?
Either way, holy crap!!! Taht's at least $3500 USD


For that kind of $$$, I recommend the Ernie Ball Music Man 25th Anneversary. SWEET as HE** !!

http://music-man.com/instruments/guitars/25th-anniversary.html

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Music-Man-25th-Anniversary-Electric-Guitar?sku=581872

For all those who love the feel of a Strat, but prefer the tone of an LP, this is as close as you will ever get (from a stock instrument with no mods)...

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#4
It looks pretty nice... I was also looking at a musicman Luke, but I can't stand active pickups.
The problem with looking at high end gear is that there's so much choice. I can only afford to do this once, so I want to get something amazing, that'll be a keeper for life.
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#5
Suhr or Tom Andereson super strat with a HSS and a 2 point trem Well that's what makes me happy in the pants anyway...
#7
Admittedly I've not played a j custom, but I've played a js1200, a pgm 301 and a Jem 7v, and they all left me cold. I'm sure they're fine guitars, but at this price point, I really want to try them out, and I've never seen a J custom in person.

Cheers anyway.
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#8
If you have that much to play with, get one custom built to your exact liking/specs.
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#9
I've been looking at that... but then you have no exact way of knowing how the guitar's going to be. Materials are only half of what goes into a guitar... it's the alchemy in between that makes it.
I had an OLP mm1, which kicked arse, and cost me £90. The materials were crap, and the cost of production was very low, but it came to more than the sum of it's parts.
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#11
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Admittedly I've not played a j custom, but I've played a js1200, a pgm 301 and a Jem 7v, and they all left me cold. I'm sure they're fine guitars, but at this price point, I really want to try them out, and I've never seen a J custom in person.

Cheers anyway.


love them guitars that`s why i got them

musicman jp and a suhr (played a couple but not familiar with their catalogue), road worn fender (sooner have a genuine relic though), dave gilmour sig strat.

i had this problem 15 months ago (more spending power though) you really need to go round as many shops as you can and play everything i spent a week and a 1/2 for 8 hours a day in about 10 stores before i shown the cash to any dealer.....racked up some serious miles aswell.
#12
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#13
Ernie Ball MusicMan Axis for sure. AWESOME guitars.
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#14
Wow, Suhr, Vigier, Tom Anderson... I'd love to have those choices. Looked at Caparison? Caparison Angelus is a PRS killer if I ever saw one.
#15
I've had my Suhr for about 2 1/2 weeks now, and I still love it as much as I did the moment I got it... well a little more actually

Wholly reccomend trying a few out, because if thats the kind of Guitar you want they are outstanding - very versatile as well.

Vigier also have a good reputation - I'd try them, but I'm afraid I can't speak on personal experience with those.
However I would say I'd avoid the Musicman... I've always found their tops look a bit cheap or flat (especially the quilt, it lacks that 3d quality good quilt has) which you shouldn't get when your spending that much.
#16
With that much I think I'd pay Tim Ellis a visit, try out a few of his builds and talk to him about class. www.tcellisguitars.com

Then again there's always http://www.whitstableguitars.co.uk/1977packleader.htm and that cash may tempt it away from him. Definitely 'special'.
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#18
Suhr, Anderson or Tyler man. Vigier is imo not top notch. Great guitars, but not at the top. More in the ESP-league.
If you want a warm and vintage sounding guitar, you might like Tyler the most. Also check the dutch custom stratocaster builder Haar (Haar guitars). I swear, these are alot nicer than Fender Custom shops.
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#19
Maybe a PRS?
Those ESPs are nice but the quilted veneer tops would look much better stained than painted IMO.
#20
+1 on tyler, as LP_CL suggested. But you have an absolute load of options, and looking at customs builders (as you've already been doing) is bound to be worth considering, too.
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#21
Get Ormsby to build you a guitar . I'd definitely have him build me one if I had that sort of cash. He'll do anything you want and build it however you want for your price range.
#22
Been looking at the musicman 25th anniversary, but it costs £1000 more in the UK than it does in the states.... which is ridiculous.
Also, been very interested in the Suhr standard and modern.

This is proving difficult....
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#23
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Been looking at the musicman 25th anniversary, but it costs £1000 more in the UK than it does in the states.... which is ridiculous.
Also, been very interested in the Suhr standard and modern.

This is proving difficult....


Only way to settle this is to try them out - there are a few suhr dealers, one in essex (at least, I think there was when I was looking for them... but no lefties for me) so go and play and see if you like them + do the same with the other guitars on your list.
#24
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Been looking at the musicman 25th anniversary, but it costs £1000 more in the UK than it does in the states.... which is ridiculous.
Also, been very interested in the Suhr standard and modern.

This is proving difficult....


yeah, unfortunately not alot you can do about the extra cost in UK.
Here's a thread about it at Ernie Ball forums.
The guy in the thread named Big Poppa is Sterling Ball himself (Ernie's son).
He explains why it's so much more expensive there.

http://www.ernieball.com/forums/music-man-guitars/38880-why-ernie-ball-music-man-guitars-so-expensive-europe.html

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#25
Try a Vigier for sure - some of the finest hand crafted guitars available at the moment. If you want a versitle fixed bridge guitar try the new G.V. (see review in Guitarist magazine - August), this model has to be the very best Vigier have crafted and they are just arriving in the UK now.

#27
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#28
A little update: I went to PMT and digital village earlier to try out a few. Digital village wouldn't let me try out any PRS models because I didn't intend to buy one today . I tried a custom 24 in PMT, through a dsl401 (Meh). It had a lovely sound in the bridge pickup, and the inbetween coil tapped positions were pretty warm too (quite Knopflery).
However, I just didn't like the feel of it. For what's meant to be a versatile rock guitar, it had no flow. Legato lines didn't come naturally, and although the guitar had quite a lot of sustain, it didn't work for smooth leads with any speed to them. I don't think this was just the setup, the guitar just gave off that vibe.

All in all, a great sounding guitar, but it doesn't feel like a £2300 guitar, and has very average tuning stability with whammy use. I'e been looking at the Suhrs with the Gotoh 510 and Floyd. Would the Floyd make a great deal of difference in sound?

Cheers people. Also on the Vigier G.V, it looks great, but I already have an awesome Les Paul type guitar. I want something a little different and more versatile, whilst keeping a nice fat lead tone.
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#29
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A little update: I went to PMT and digital village earlier to try out a few. Digital village wouldn't let me try out any PRS models because I didn't intend to buy one today . I tried a custom 24 in PMT, through a dsl401 (Meh). It had a lovely sound in the bridge pickup, and the inbetween coil tapped positions were pretty warm too (quite Knopflery).
However, I just didn't like the feel of it. For what's meant to be a versatile rock guitar, it had no flow. Legato lines didn't come naturally, and although the guitar had quite a lot of sustain, it didn't work for smooth leads with any speed to them. I don't think this was just the setup, the guitar just gave off that vibe.

All in all, a great sounding guitar, but it doesn't feel like a £2300 guitar, and has very average tuning stability with whammy use. I'e been looking at the Suhrs with the Gotoh 510 and Floyd. Would the Floyd make a great deal of difference in sound?

Cheers people. Also on the Vigier G.V, it looks great, but I already have an awesome Les Paul type guitar. I want something a little different and more versatile, whilst keeping a nice fat lead tone.


Floyds don't make a huge deal of change in sound. I still recommend the EJ strat, but you can get those used for around $1000.

There are other Vigier guitars out there, that have different shapes and pickup styles. As for Suhr, I've played one before and I thought it was fantastic. I played one of the classic ones without a floyd though as the only heavy whammy abuse I do is more how Hendrix does, not like Satch and what not.

If you want something different, maybe an ES-335? Though, it doesn't have a whammy. I still strongly suggest Ormsby, he can make you a fantastic guitar with anything you want. You can access him via PM on here since he posts on these forums.
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#31
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(a) Digital village wouldn't let me try out any PRS models because I didn't intend to buy one today .

I'e been looking at the Suhrs with the Gotoh 510 and Floyd. Would the Floyd make a great deal of difference in sound?


(a) that's lame, take your business elsewhere. the correct response to that is, "if you won't let me try here today when I'm not buying, I'm not buying here on the day I am buying".

(b) yeah, it will. The gotoh floyd has a pretty warm and soft tone, it's completely different to the bright stratty trem tone. assuming the gotoh 510 is stratty... isn't the ge101 or something like that the really vintage stratty one? Maybe the 510 is two-point, in which case it probably sounds halfway between a vintage strat trem and gotoh floyd.
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#32
If you have 2500 to spend on a guitar and need to come here to ask what to get then save yourself the money until you get a clue, what guitar threats should be banned.
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#33
^ fuck off. If it weren't for "what guitar" threads there wouldn't be an electric guitar forum. And fwiw, jimbob is one of the more knowledgeable people about these forums- he's not cluelessly asking which guitar he should buy, he's asking what his options are in cased he's missed something which would be worthy of a try-out.

by the way, I have no idea who you are. Maybe you shouldn't castigate regulars when you aren't one yourself. And by the looks of his gear, he has more of a clue than you do.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#35
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If you have 2500 to spend on a guitar and need to come here to ask what to get then save yourself the money until you get a clue, what guitar threats should be banned.



out of curiosity, what threads should banket the front page of the EG section?

the setups, and new gear pics are already supposed to be at the top.

so what would you like the guys to talk about?
why avril has a sig guitar, when i'm still home wanking it all day?

new guitar threads are a main part of this section.


forget about the fact that he's asking a valid question. he's looking at his options and supplying the thread with all the important information needed to help.


come on now really.


TS, i would love to be in your shoes. i wish i could help, but i'm more of a strat player.
in your case i guess i'd go for a custom guitar. good luck
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#36
Cheers Dave. That post actually made me grin. The Floyd sounds right up my street too, as I like a warm tone, and a Floyd sounds like a lot of fun.

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#37
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^ fuck off. If it weren't for "what guitar" threads there wouldn't be an electric guitar forum. And fwiw, jimbob is one of the more knowledgeable people about these forums- he's not cluelessly asking which guitar he should buy, he's asking what his options are in cased he's missed something which would be worthy of a try-out.

by the way, I have no idea who you are. Maybe you shouldn't castigate regulars when you aren't one yourself. And by the looks of his gear, he has more of a clue than you do.


Ha ha brilliant, abuse from the off, always an intelligent way to get your point across, a tip of the hat to you sir!
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#38
i made pretty valid points apart from the swearing and slagging off your gear. jj1565 expanded on it, too.

and cheers, jimbob, good luck with the guitar. Floyds are great fun, but like anything it'll depend on how much you'll use it.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#39
Cheers. I found a nice deal on one, but I'm not sure about the finish.
http://www.peachideas.com/cgi-bin/sh000007.pl?REFPAGE=http%3a%2f%2fwww.peachideas.com%2facatalog%2fSuhr_Modern_Trans_Charcoal.html&WD=suhr&SHOP=%20&PREVQUERY=SS%3dsuhr%26ACTION.x%3d0%26ACTION.y%3d0%26PR%3d-1%26TB%3dA%26SHOP%3d%20&PN=Suhr_Modern_Trans_Charcoal.html%23a1671#a1671

Or they have a mahogany honey burst coming in for £600 more with a Floyd...
Or a Guthrie sig for £200 more than that.

Saying that, for the price difference, I could have the basswood charcoal finish, and have a USA strat/tele for a few more sounds.

Decisions eh....
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