#1
some help here guys do the valve combo versions of head and cab stacks sound the same ??? and any advice on what to get play blues rock etc to metal and around 800-900 pounds sterling to spend ..........
#3
the only difference is more headroom

gigging doesnt necessarily have to be with a halfstack
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#4
yea im leaning more towards a half stack heads i been looking at are the dsl 50 tsl 60 and a spider valve any suggestions ?
#5
DSL 50 is nice IMO
Spider Valve is meh, but better than the Spider 3s
Never tried the TSL 60
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#6
there is no difference in most cases, if its a head or a combo they do not wire them differently if they are the same model and wattage
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#7
Quote by soloXshredder
the only difference is more headroom

gigging doesnt necessarily have to be with a halfstack


Not only headroom, but the more speakers you have the fuller your tone sounds.

Also going with the head/cab choice opens up a more options - you can change heads if you happen to make a big jump in style (i.e. you're playing in a death metal band and then you start playing in a blues rock band), you can easily change your tone just by switching cabs.

TS: imo, if you have the money to spend on a good halfstack then you should go that route.

You should look into something like a used Peavey JSX and a nice 2x12 (or 4x12 depending on whichever you want and how much money you have).
#8
Quote by soloXshredder
the only difference is more headroom

No it's not.

If the combo and the head are the same wattage, then they should have the same amount of headroom. The only difference is that with a cab your sound is spread out more; you can potentially get a better sound by having the ability to change speakers with cabs, and the different sizes of cabs.

Not to mention combos are heavy as ****.
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#9
^ thats what i was trying to say thanks
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#10
so whats a good head for around 800 pounds then ??? still have my old marshall vs100 so have time to grab a cab a little later on
#12
Quote by MatrixClaw


Not to mention combos are heavy as ****.


Hey, try lifting my Laney Pro Tube Head and then tell me combos are heavy, god knows why it weighs a tonne

EDIT: just realised how off topic that was, anyway try out jcm 800 or 900s.
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#13
they wont ever sound exactly the same because a 4x12 cab pushes a lot more air around than a combo amp, giving the impression of overall more "loudness" but otherwise yeah they'll sound pretty much the same.

you almost never need a stack, but i'll always take a stack over a combo because they're more cutomizable, and many venues will let you use their cabs, so a head is a lot less to carry
#14
well in my experience, venues have sh*t for cabs
but it is still easier to move a head/412 than a closed back 212 combo imo
and i highly dislike the tsl, while the dsl is one of my favorite modern voiced marshalls.
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#15
man if ur intrested i have my engl fireball for sale at £600 its in good condition with the footswitch n sounds great for any style
#16
sounds interesting but im based in germany so cant pick up and cant get by post as there is a weight limit but any suggestions on what head to get ????
#17
Well if you decide to get a half stack I would suggest that you get one that are rated for 4 ohms , 8 ohms stereo and 16 ohms so that way, you could use it with different head rating. And the speakers of your choice will make your cab go from 120 watts ( v30,s the most expensive ones ) to 400 watts ones. The slackadjuster
#18
Quote by soloXshredder
the only difference is more headroom

gigging doesnt necessarily have to be with a halfstack


Better bass response
Closed back versus Open back
Casters already installed
Fuller tone
Better option of speakers
More versatility
Rolling is eaiser then carrying
Construction
A place to hide your beer

The list goes on and on... So thats far from the only difference.
#19
^ +1

And no, combos and heads don't always sound alike.

See: Peavey Windsor head vs. Peavey Windsor Studio
#20
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#21
so whats a good head for blues classic and hard rock and metal then for around 800 pounds then ???
#22
Quote by eyebanez333
^ +1

And no, combos and heads don't always sound alike.

See: Peavey Windsor head vs. Peavey Windsor Studio

That's a completely different amp though...

The only thing they share in common is the "Windsor" in the name.


Without that, that'd be like comparing a Mesa F-50 to a Mesa 5:50.
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#23
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That's a completely different amp though...

The only thing they share in common is the "Windsor" in the name.


Without that, that'd be like comparing a Mesa F-50 to a Mesa 5:50.


I'm willing to bet that the 6505 112 combo doesn't sound like the head...and I know the XXX combo sounds different than the head. Granted there are different tube combinations, wattages, etc.