#1
So i've been playing guitar a few years now and have recently started getting into more hardcore/metaly stuff. Some of the things I need help on is getting super fast chugging down (stuff like miss may i or as blood runs black) Any tips? Thanks
#2
What exactly are you having trouble with? The speed/tremolo picking, rhythm?
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#4
As with everything on guitar, play it slowly, to a metronome, with perfect rhythm, and sounding exactly as you want it to sound, and then slowly speed it up.
#5
mine is more just getting up to speed with the rhythm.
but I'll definitely try out a metronome. Thanks =D
#6
Rest your hand on the body of the guitar and use that as a fulcrum point to move up and down. Use just your wrist, no arm movement at all.

Use thin picks ( I play death metal/grindcore/etc ) and I use Dunlop nylon .38 or .46 the best picks on the planet
#8
Yeah, I use dunlop tortex 1mm picks and switch to a .73mm for tremelo picking.
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#9
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Thick picks are much better for metal


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#10
Quote by darkwolf291
Play with a metronome and slowly turn the speed up, the key is to find the point when you're not only fast, but consistent, after you find that point, keep building the speed up little by little


METRONOME METRONOME METRONOME!

Also, get some 1.00 picks.

Practice at like 130, and then after you get 130 down, move up to 135, then 140 and so on.

www.all-guitar-chords.com >>>>> They have a metronome on the site, also its a great site for learning scales and chords.
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#11
With this technique, many people use incorrect nomenclature. Please look through the "gallop" lesson in my sig and make sure you understand what I said in that thread.
#12
Never heard of Miss May, but as for As Blood Runs Black's stuff, the key to chugging is economizing your movements (ie economy picking). And as aforementioned, the use of a metronome to practice whilst increasing the bpm is a big help, and should be a part of your practice routine anyway.
And because they play in drop C, you might want to avoid thin picks. Go .88 and up.
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#14
Use wrist picking? your probably already doing that
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#15
Quote by bangoodcharlote
Chugging uses one string!

You were aware he said economy of motion, right? Just before calling it economy picking, although he didn't call it economy picking... he had ie. before it as to give an example of economising picking per se.

Anyway TS, James Hetfield gets super fast downstrokes while Kirk Hammet has to use alternate picking to keep up... if you can get your upstrokes to sound as good as your downstrokes... you can have an easier job of making it great. Otherwise some other people may help you out in the guitar techniques section if you don't get your answer here...
#16
Haha economy picking ain't geared toward heavy riffs my friend. As people have correctly stated (and just like everything other topic discussed) you must play it slow and build it up from there. There is no trick to get you to do. Just practice and experience.

I use Dunlop 1.14 picks. I think they are the best, but hey just my opinion. And as I've said before, one of my favorite things to do is the palm mute that only slightly mutes the bottom strings, so the bottom two are still ringing out. It sounds fun to me.
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#17
yeah matt... u are correct. I can't play heavy riffs at all. I can't play much of anything. But I do know that I typed "economy of motion" as did the other guy. Building up from a slow tempo to ultra super duper fast might be normal logic but reading the other stuff may take more stamina, I understand. Your pick won't make much of a difference when its above .73 or so... but yeah... thanks for reading inside the quotations and not the rest
#18
Quote by Deathloc45
Rest your hand on the body of the guitar and use that as a fulcrum point to move up and down. Use just your wrist, no arm movement at all.

Use thin picks ( I play death metal/grindcore/etc ) and I use Dunlop nylon .38 or .46 the best picks on the planet


You lose so much attack and "umpfh" when you play with little thingies like that.
#19
about the picks, I've heard of a few people that prefer thinner picks for faster things, but that suggests to me that they're using them to make up for lack of control. floppy picks may seem to make you faster because you don't have to be as accurate, but it uses a lot more energy to hit the string because you have to exaggerate your movements, you have to move the pick a lot further for each individual note.
#20
Get Jazz III's - they wont give an incredibly difference to speed but you'll notice an improvement

Also having thick strings helps - I play a lot of thrash so my low E string is a .52, more tension = less movement in string = faster picking
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#21
Quote by PuppetMaster91
Get Jazz III's - they wont give an incredibly difference to speed but you'll notice an improvement


+1
#22
For right now im playing with .73mm picks with 10s for strings. do i need thinner strings?
#23
Thicker strings are better. 10s are fine, but if you can play with 11s, use the thicker strings.

12s typically have a wrapped G string and you rarely want that on a electric guitar; 13s always have a wrapped G, and that's overkill, anyway. Of course, I use 11s, so...
#25
Quote by bangoodcharlote
Thicker strings are better. 10s are fine, but if you can play with 11s, use the thicker strings.

12s typically have a wrapped G string and you rarely want that on a electric guitar; 13s always have a wrapped G, and that's overkill, anyway. Of course, I use 11s, so...



Actually I'd just say they sound different (and not all that much).

9's sound great IMO.
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#26
Quote by The4thHorsemen
about the picks, I've heard of a few people that prefer thinner picks for faster things, but that suggests to me that they're using them to make up for lack of control. floppy picks may seem to make you faster because you don't have to be as accurate, but it uses a lot more energy to hit the string because you have to exaggerate your movements, you have to move the pick a lot further for each individual note.
+1. But trying to play fast with a floppy pick must be a bit like trying to write with a rubber pencil - if you've got no control over what the end of your pick is doing how can you play accurately?
#27
Quote by The4thHorsemen
about the picks, I've heard of a few people that prefer thinner picks for faster things, but that suggests to me that they're using them to make up for lack of control. floppy picks may seem to make you faster because you don't have to be as accurate, but it uses a lot more energy to hit the string because you have to exaggerate your movements, you have to move the pick a lot further for each individual note.


+1

Personally I use picks above .7 mm. Normally 1 mm.
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#28
Get a Hybrid set - Ernie Ball skinny top heavy bottoms for example
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#29
LOL at how this thread turned into a pick thickness and string guage battle....

The answer - as with all other techniques - is practice.

And I wouldn't recommend resting your hand on the guitar if you can avoid it. That might be okay when playing on the low E and A strings...but what if you want to move down to the D string then back up without palm-muting - or doing a fill on the high strings for that matter?

Pick and string choice is completely subjective....although Jazz III's are the winner.
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