#1
so basically I'm giving my guitar the Jimmy Page Mod, but I want to add two separate killswitches, one for the neck pickup, one for the bridge. I've done killswitches before, but only a single one and just breaking the output wire near the output jack.

can anyone please tell me how I would have to connect these on this scheme, using two separate DPDT's (or is SPDT enough)?

http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=jp_style

I thought maybe just cut the "black" wire and put the switches there and maybe connect to the ground or something like that? don't know for sure, that's why I'm asking
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Last edited by Skywalker007 at Sep 21, 2009,
#2
cut the output and ground and run it through both? on both pickups? idk not an expert but i do have some guitar tech exp.
Last edited by Zakattak264 at Sep 21, 2009,
#3
why dont you just do a single killswitch at the end of the connection right before the output jack that way it wouldnt mater what pickup you are using
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#4
so i'm guessing the "black" labeled one is the output signal? and at which point would I need to cut and connect the ground wire, the wire coming from the bridge, right before the vol pots or after the pots?
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#5
Quote by Jimbleton
why dont you just do a single killswitch at the end of the connection right before the output jack that way it wouldnt mater what pickup you are using


I would like to use these switches to turn off the p-up i don't want to use and using the p-up selector to control the killswitch effect. up until now i used to roll the right volume control to 0 to do this, but flicking a switch beneath the pickguard just seems easier.
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Last edited by Skywalker007 at Sep 21, 2009,
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Quote by Jimbleton
why dont you just do a single killswitch at the end of the connection right before the output jack that way it wouldnt mater what pickup you are using


maybe he's after the tonal change from when you swap from using both pickups to just one in killswitch form?
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maybe he's after the tonal change from when you swap from using both pickups to just one in killswitch form?


that is one of the reasons, but not the main one ,
i just would like to have as much possible tonal combinations as possible by only using wire and p/p pots and a few hidden switches, cheap and not drilling or hurting the guitar. I might add a varitone knob in the future though..
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#8
I'd actually suggest 3 killswitches if you are set on having one for every pup, then also one master killswitch if you dont wanna have to use 2 fingers to get that stutter effect.
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I'd actually suggest 3 killswitches if you are set on having one for every pup, then also one master killswitch if you dont wanna have to use 2 fingers to get that stutter effect.


i thought 2 would be enough to have the stutter effect, just turn one p-up off, and use the p-up selector to switch between a working p-up and a silent one, that would stutter, that's what you mean or not?
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#10
yeah, but what if you wanted both pups to be selected while using the killswitch?
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yeah, but what if you wanted both pups to be selected while using the killswitch?

touche! didn't think of that, but i guess it would be hard to wire this, because I really would like to use the p-up selector to control the stutter, because i like that it switches more smoothly that most mini switches and I don't want a momentary switch. I guess that's something I won't have then.

but for the 2 killswitches, where would you recommend to connect to the ground, before, after or between the pots somewhere? I'm afraid of getting ground-looped again and paying almost 100 eur to get it fixed and realizing what a dumb mistake I made.
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#12
To be honest, I think your first dumb mistake is doing all that crap to your guitar in the first place.

The "JP" wiring (never used in zeppelin), to me, is overkill. It's a mess wiring-wise and you only get one or two more usable sounds out of it. Two killswitches is just absurd when you can just roll off the volume. My advice is to add these mods one at a time, and play with them for a while. I think you'll find that you don't need most of them, and you can get a lot of tones with one or two push pull pots and the volume knobs.
#13
I think i got it figured out:

would this be correct for the 2 killswitch arrangement? (yes I know my drawing is crappy)


and i know how to add a third one, if I needed, just want to check if this is correct, not creating a ground loop and such
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Last edited by Skywalker007 at Sep 21, 2009,
#14
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To be honest, I think your first dumb mistake is doing all that crap to your guitar in the first place.

The "JP" wiring (never used in zeppelin), to me, is overkill. It's a mess wiring-wise and you only get one or two more usable sounds out of it. Two killswitches is just absurd when you can just roll off the volume. My advice is to add these mods one at a time, and play with them for a while. I think you'll find that you don't need most of them, and you can get a lot of tones with one or two push pull pots and the volume knobs.

I was planning on getting new p-ups anyway and adding a single coil split, a phase switch and a series/parallel switch, but then I thought it wouldn't differ that much from a JP mod and a killswitch also shouldn't be that hard to wire (at least a master killswitch ) So I thought why not, it's only one p/p pot, two mini switches and some wire more. that's the way I see it, but everyone is entitled to his own opinion, some like messy wirings, some don't On a cheap Epi i have no trouble trying something like this out.
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#15
If the black wire is indeed the signal wire like you say it is (I'm too lazy to check), then yes, your diagram would be correct. But you could also do it with SPDT or even SPST switches, just saying.
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