#1
What is the correct time signature for 3 and a half beats?

Here's the whole riff itself if it can be of any use

First measure - (4/4)

E|------------------------------------|
B|------------------------------------|
G|---------------------------------0-|
D|----------7-------5--------7------|
A|-----10------9-------10----------|
E|-0---------------------------------|

Second measure - (?) It's three and a half beats.. Straight 8th notes

E|------------------------------|
B|------------------------------|
G|-----------------0-----------|
D|----5-------2---------------|
A|-7------5----------------2--|
E|----------------------3------|


Please help
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#2
7/8

that is really uncommon though, you usually see it as a 3/8 grouping combined with 4/8
are you sure you got that right?
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#4
Well, I'm definately no timing expert.. xD I know my way around a lot of it but not when it gets too complicated..

That's just the riff I just came out with.. I imagine you could maybe make it one whole timing maybe as opposed to doing 1 measure of 4/4, 1 measure 7/8, and repeat...

But I'm not really clear on that..
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#5
hold that last note for a quarter note and it would all even out time wise
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#6
Quote by justinb904
7/8

that is really uncommon though, you usually see it as a 3/8 grouping combined with 4/8
are you sure you got that right?



It's not wrong at all though. Just looks like 2/3/2.

And yeah, it's 7/8. Seven eight notes, just like the first is 4/4, four quarter notes.

Quote by justinb904
hold that last note for a quarter note and it would all even out time wise


Why? If he likes it how it is there's no rule saying it has to be in 4/4 or stay consistent in time signature from measure to measure.
#7
Quote by justinb904
hold that last note for a quarter note and it would all even out time wise


Yeah, I know it would. But 1- I like learning new stuff. 7/8 is a timing I've never put in a song before. And 2- I like writing riffs that make my drummer wanna kill himself. And 3- With the 7/8 signature the feel is very spacious and keeps me intrigued in the riff without it being an intricate overkill.

Thanks for everyone's help however.

Also, outta curiousity for future reference... 5/8 = 2 and a half beats? Or am I wrong there?
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Last edited by Killswitch666 at Sep 22, 2009,
#8
you could change the tempo and put it in 16ths instead of 8ths and use 15/16 as a time sig... I think. I don't really know theory i just muck around on gp.
#9
One last question.. Is there any other way to say 10/4? Cause that seems kinda ridiculous to me xD

EDIT: Nevermind I'm an idiot... It's just 5/4... -_-; I counted it in 8ths again instead of Quarters...
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#10
You asked about 3 1/2 beats and the time signature. There is no way to write 3 1/2 over 4 so we change it to 7/8.

Above a person asked about changing it to 15/16 and is that ok. No, it's not. You would use 15/16 when it is 3 3/4 beats. Multiply 4 to both and get 15/16. Need to make them round numbers.

Above you asked about 10/4, but then you corrected it and said 5/4. The way you know to go back to beat 1 is when it completes a phrase, then we restart at beat 1. It IS possible to have 10/4 if a phrase completes after 10 beats.
#11
TS- I like the riff, but is there a reason you are playing it the way you have it written. all the same notes are available in second position. Just curious. I've played it a few different ways and there is no difference in sound.
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#12
Quote by zoomy74
TS- I like the riff, but is there a reason you are playing it the way you have it written. all the same notes are available in second position. Just curious. I've played it a few different ways and there is no difference in sound.


There is a pretty big difference in sound when you're changing strings and positions on the fretboard.

Reasons TS might want to play it the way he wrote it:

1. Tone of the strings at certain places on the neck
2. Personal preference
3. Easier leading into/out of another song section
4. Etc.
#13
Quote by timeconsumer09
There is a pretty big difference in sound when you're changing strings and positions on the fretboard.

Reasons TS might want to play it the way he wrote it:

1. Tone of the strings at certain places on the neck
2. Personal preference
3. Easier leading into/out of another song section
4. Etc.


I understand what you are saying, was asking his reason. What I meant by no diff in sound was that playing the open string g and the g at the 10th fret of the a string is the same note. Playing it the way he has it written is a little more difficult than other ways to get the exact same notes. Its can also be played in one position, which would eliminate the possibility of string sliding noise.
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