#1
So I've decided to take a new approach to figuring out songs, and that is to find out a part for sure, figure out the key, and thus narrow down choices and make improv a ton easier. Now my questions:
1) How often might I see a key change in a song, and what would be the best way to recognize it?
2) Would you say that its possible that a band simply did not follow the key? Theoretically 3 adjacent frets should never be played, so how come I see it often? (this question specifically applies to a lot of mudvayne, which I figure is a fairly theory based band because of the odd time signatures so maybe they just change key a lot?)
3) For anyone with bass knowledge, would you say it is advisable when doing a walking bass line to violate the key?
#3
Quote by toshiro umezewa
to # 3-
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=591737

@ #2- In the Blues scale you see 3 consecutive frets played, as it has the 4th, b5th, and 5th in it.

Thanks man ...about 2 more, key signature does not have to follow a major scale/circle of fifths?
Sorry if I sound like an idiot but I haven't had time yet to read the flurry of FAQs
#5
A lot of what you are seeing with the three consecutive frets are just chromatic notes. These notes are out of the key/scale, and are used very often in metal.
#6
Quote by Well.......
A lot of what you are seeing with the three consecutive frets are just chromatic notes. These notes are out of the key/scale, and are used very often in metal.


O so your saying keys are really suggestions, and playing outside of them isn't that unheard of?
#8
Quote by ExurKun
O so your saying keys are really suggestions, and playing outside of them isn't that unheard of?



I can't tell if your being an ass right now, or just trying to ask a question.
#9
Quote by Well.......
I can't tell if your being an ass right now, or just trying to ask a question.

eh im seriously that stupid. I'm starting to really look at why the song is as it is, rather than how, but i dont have any formal theory instruction so ya... lol
#10
Quote by ExurKun
eh im seriously that stupid. I'm starting to really look at why the song is as it is, rather than how, but i dont have any formal theory instruction so ya... lol



Oh. okay. Sorry.

Look at the intro to Master of Puppets, it is very chromatic, yet it sounds good.
#11
Keys are not rules. They're groups of notes that have been found to sound good together (it's more complicated than this, but it's an explanation that will suffice for a beginner). If you have other notes you think sound good that aren't in key, use them. There's nothing against it.

IF IT SOUNDS GOOD, IT IS GOOD