#1
So yesterday at my college there were these tools with a booth. At that booth they had posters of obama with a hitler stache, they seriously believed he could be the next hitler just because of a few similarities in health plans.

This got me thinking though, Hitler brought his country out of its worst economic slump with good ol' fascism, why could that not work for the U.S. Now im not saying that we ditch the consitution but we add a few ammendments giving the government more power to change.
#5
I think you are mistaken by what i mean. I do not think that the slaughter of the jews homos, crazies, and oldies was a good thing at all. I think people just see the holocaust when they think of hitler, you have to admit he did a lot of good for his aryan countrymen.
#6
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Uh. No.

Jesus Christ people are fucking stupid. A universal health care plan is not:
-Socialism
-Fascism
-Welfare
-Going to rob you blind


Enough.

well, a healthcare plan is a socialistic idea...but, w/e...Obama won't be Hitler until he takes out bi-partisan elections, removes the constitution, and sends all the "terrorists" to concentration camps. Bush was more of a fascist then Obama is (not saying Bush was a fascist, just saying he was more of one (state > individual rights))
TO ALL MY KILLERS AND MY HUNDRED DOLLAR BILLERS...
...TO EMO KIDS THAT GOT TOO MANY FEELINGS
#7
Do you even know how Hitler did it?


Massive military spending to mobilize industry.

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well, a healthcare plan is a socialistic idea...but, w/e...Obama won't be Hitler until he takes out bi-partisan elections, removes the constitution, and sends all the "terrorists" to concentration camps. Bush was more of a fascist then Obama is (not saying Bush was a fascist, just saying he was more of one (state > individual rights))

no it isn't socialistic, it's a public OPTION.

you can keep your for-profit health care, or switch to cheaper public option.
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#8
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I think you are mistaken by what i mean. I do not think that the slaughter of the jews homos, crazies, and oldies was a good thing at all. I think people just see the holocaust when they think of hitler, you have to admit he did a lot of good for his aryan countrymen.



Im sorry, there is no good way of seeing what hitler did. All of the goverments that had facism in it did wrong. Just study all of the cases and realise. In all of the dictatorships there was blood shed
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Do you even know how Hitler did it?


Massive military spending to mobilize industry.


no it isn't socialistic, it's a public OPTION.

you can keep your for-profit health care, or switch to cheaper public option.

universal health care is a socialistic idea...Obama's health care plan might not be, but the guy I quoted said universal health care.
TO ALL MY KILLERS AND MY HUNDRED DOLLAR BILLERS...
...TO EMO KIDS THAT GOT TOO MANY FEELINGS
#11
Quote by ExtremeMetalFTW
Do you even know how Hitler did it?


Massive military spending to mobilize industry.


no it isn't socialistic, it's a public OPTION.

you can keep your for-profit health care, or switch to cheaper public option.


And thats exactly what happens in my country.

Liberalism and extreme Socialism, not good, you need a mix.
#13
Quote by _KurtCobain_77
universal health care is a socialistic idea...Obama's health care plan might not be, but the guy I quoted said universal health care.

if that's the case, then so is

the USPS

the FCC

FDA

DoT

and many others.
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Im sorry, there is no good way of seeing what hitler did. All of the goverments that had facism in it did wrong. Just study all of the cases and realise. In all of the dictatorships there was blood shed


That is true, but look at Russia just after WW2, next to no crime other than the state over zealous routing out of "anti-state citizens". If you force people into something and you give them reason to fear then most likely they will get **** done.

Im not saying that Fascism is the correct thing to get us out but I think it could. I'm just really wondering what others think of this.
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#15
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That is true, but look at Russia just after WW2, next to no crime other than the state over zealous routing out of "anti-state citizens". If you force people into something and you give them reason to fear then most likely they will get **** done.

Stalin was a prick and a pseudo-commie.

True communists despise him and his like.


and it wasn't fascism that got the country's economy going, it was the mass military build up for the war that got the industry rolling and people working.

Regardless of what government system is in place that would be a short term of economic prosperity.
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#17
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I think that the economy needs more socialist ideas while remaining a capitalist society.

no, you mean you want more regulations on the mixed-market to avoid a future crash, not socialist ideas.


otherwise you wouldn't be concerned with keeping capitalism
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That is true, but look at Russia just after WW2, next to no crime other than the state over zealous routing out of "anti-state citizens". If you force people into something and you give them reason to fear then most likely they will get **** done.

Im not saying that Fascism is the correct thing to get us out but I think it could. I'm just really wondering what others think of this.


You surely know no **** about dictators. Of course you didnt live one.

Well a goverment to fear is a ****ty one. Living under fear is a ****ty life. And the end does not justify the means on all cases.

My parents lived a very hard military dictatorship when they were young, people were killed for no reason what so ever, lots of people where kidnapped. Just read a little more before saying bs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Reorganization_Process

] Official investigations undertaken after the end of the Dirty War documented the "disappearance" of about nine thousand persons, noting nevertheless that the correct number is bound to be higher, since many cases were not reported and the records were destroyed by the military authority [1]; unofficial estimates by most human rights organizations place the number closer at 30,000. Among the "disappeared" were pregnant mothers whose babies, once born, were then illegally adopted by military families.
#19
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Stalin was a prick and a pseudo-commie.

True communists despise him and his like.


and it wasn't fascism that got the country's economy going, it was the mass military build up for the war that got the industry rolling and people working.

Regardless of what government system is in place that would be a short term of economic prosperity.


Well whats the difference between that and public works? It is still government money going to the public which the public spends back and eventually goes to the government again.
#20
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I think that the economy needs more socialist ideas while remaining a capitalist society.


Socialism and fascism are completely different things.
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