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#81
Quote by TheBurningFish

Quite a shreddy bit of nonsense for him, so maybe some of the Buckethead/satch/etc. fans may be able to relate to it a bit more.


Satch and Buckethead are shreddy nonsense?
#82
afaik, Satriani never alt. picks really fast.

If only I could get that legato volume.
Also, my pinky seems to make a tiny pull-off sound when I do legato.
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#83
tbh i was never really impressed with his chord-melody approach. it sounded really boring to me, he should stick to his strengths

holdsworth is kinda controversial (same with al di meola, john mclaughlin etc), im not suprised it didnt get much of a response in the jazz forum
#84
Quote by motoko
tbh i was never really impressed with his chord-melody approach. it sounded really boring to me, he should stick to his strengths


I feel the total opposite. Great chordal approach, boring lead playing.
#86
as do I. I LOVE his use of swells so much. The ground on my volume knob actually got loose cause i was swelling so much while playing "Shallow Sea"'s intro. Its also a 10 year old used guitar I got off eBay [it's MIJ though lol], so...

But yeah he's great at chordal work and lead. He does both at the same time to me in "Tokyo Dream".

Anyone have his tab book? I wanna know if it's correct before I Buy it. Ramm_ty told me it was incorrect in places, I just wanna confirm/disprove that before I decide to buy it
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Quote by OMMad
i've always found pop to be harder to play than metal... especially shred metal... it's just really fast tremolo picking and the occasional palm mute... and the only chords you have to worry about are power chords...
#87
I have all the Holdsy books, even the out of print ones. As far as I can tell, it's correct, but bear in mind that I can't reach all the chords.

None of them contain any lead guitar, btw, although they do have the riffs from Toyko Dream and IIRC Road Games and such.
#88
ah...

well then...

*cough* can you um send me some peeksies of some of those out of print tabs?

ill buy the books that are still available in due time, but um... help a brother out?

I have a few out of print Steve Morse tab books.

I told steve that when i met him a few weeks back and he said it was fine; but just not to do it anymore, just send to others through e-mail and private use, but he said what i had already done was OK.
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Quote by OMMad
i've always found pop to be harder to play than metal... especially shred metal... it's just really fast tremolo picking and the occasional palm mute... and the only chords you have to worry about are power chords...
#90
Damn, that sucks. Means I'll have to wait for one to pop up on eBay. Theres a "Structural Damage" album tab book for the Steve Morse band on Amazon but its like $100+ so...

i wont be getting that.

I spent $120 on the tab books for Coast to Coast and High Tension Wires. Is that sad?
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Quote by OMMad
i've always found pop to be harder to play than metal... especially shred metal... it's just really fast tremolo picking and the occasional palm mute... and the only chords you have to worry about are power chords...
#92
Quote by griffRG7321
Satch and Buckethead are shreddy nonsense?

Stop being a *** and trying to start an argument, because I did not say that Buckethead and Satch are shreddy nonsense, nor did I imply it. And if I did, it was not in an insulting manner. If you're so bored you're gonna be Mr internet smart arse, go outside.

Edit: On the topic of Holdsworth's legato volume, I suggest that you ever meet him, you take a good look at his hands. They are big meaty sunsabitches and long in the finger to boot. That combined with his really low action (which I think really means that the whole reverse hammer thing is a myth, you can practically just look at a fret hard enough and cause a note to ring out) makes his legato playing supreme. Plus, you know, years of practice, but who wants to hear that?
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Last edited by TheBurningFish at Nov 30, 2009,
#93
For someone who believes people who start arguments are asses, you seem pretty keen to join their ranks.

Cool down and explain what you meant if you feel you've been misrepresented, don't just insult the other person.

ED: And why would the reverse hammer thing be a myth if action was really low? If anything, it lends credence to the idea...
#94
Quote by Freepower
For someone who believes people who start arguments are asses, you seem pretty keen to join their ranks.

Cool down and explain what you meant if you feel you've been misrepresented, don't just insult the other person.

It is impossible for me to describe the amount of willpower it is taking me to refrain from saying "Yes, dad."

Although, in my defense, I didn't call him an ass. And I'm quite cool, thank you.

Maybe I over reacted, but I see people on the internet constantly who like to read something, immediately and purposefully take it out of context and it's original intention to start some crap, and I'm not in the mood for it. If this wasn't his intention then I apologise.

Edit: Yeah but it shows that it's not really something he practised, or perhaps even does intentionally (or discovered intentionally).
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Willies. Fuck the lick and fuck you too.
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#95
I just guessed that *** was ass. I can't think of much else without an extra *.

Griff's pretty cool, I don't think you need to worry about him being an anon internet ***. I assume he was just puzzled. (as was I)

Regarding the hammeron backwards thing, yeah, it's definitely something he does intentionally, I've read plenty of interviews where he's talking about his quest to remove his few remaining pull-offs from his playing and how he started using the technique to avoid the sound of pull-offs.
#96
Quote by Freepower
Regarding the hammeron backwards thing, yeah, it's definitely something he does intentionally, I've read plenty of interviews where he's talking about his quest to remove his few remaining pull-offs from his playing and how he started using the technique to avoid the sound of pull-offs.


Confirmed. Those interviews are all over the net if one searches hard enough, and I sort of agree with him. I'm still avoiding regular pulls as much as I can.
#97
takes practice... changing something i thought was good and making it better altogether.

and, wishfulshredder; i dont think its sad to spend that much for music you love
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Quote by OMMad
i've always found pop to be harder to play than metal... especially shred metal... it's just really fast tremolo picking and the occasional palm mute... and the only chords you have to worry about are power chords...
#98
Quote by Colton165
takes practice... changing something i thought was good and making it better altogether.

and, wishfulshredder; i dont think its sad to spend that much for music you love


hahaha I understand, I do the same thing (when I have spare money)
I just thought that it would be a funny answer to your question
#99
i figured lol.

and my parents fronted half for me and i paid them back.

anyone else think that the vocals on "Was There?" intro remind you of something middle-eastern almost?
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Quote by OMMad
i've always found pop to be harder to play than metal... especially shred metal... it's just really fast tremolo picking and the occasional palm mute... and the only chords you have to worry about are power chords...
#100
Kind of.

I can't stand the vocals on 'In the Mystery', though.

In the mysteryyyyy
In the mysteryy...
In the mysteryyyyy
In the mysteryy...
In the mysteryyyyy
In the mysteryy...
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#101
I don't really like any of the vocals on that album.
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#102
i think the vocals on Material Real are the most listenable/best on Road Games

either way my fav on that album is Three Sheets to the Wind
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i've always found pop to be harder to play than metal... especially shred metal... it's just really fast tremolo picking and the occasional palm mute... and the only chords you have to worry about are power chords...
#104
oh damn i didnt know that.
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Quote by OMMad
i've always found pop to be harder to play than metal... especially shred metal... it's just really fast tremolo picking and the occasional palm mute... and the only chords you have to worry about are power chords...
#105
Quote by Axegrinder#9
F that singer whatever his name was. Paul or Phil or something. He screwed Holdsworth out of royalties by releasing bootlegs, demos etc.


Not him. Paul Korda was fine. Paul Williams, on the other hand, did indeed screw Holdsworth (according to the latter).

And yes, confusingly both Pauls sang on Metal Fatigue.
#106
very confusing indeed
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Quote by OMMad
i've always found pop to be harder to play than metal... especially shred metal... it's just really fast tremolo picking and the occasional palm mute... and the only chords you have to worry about are power chords...
#107
Not as bad as Jesus. Two Simons and two Peters, not to mention the whole thing about one of the disciples having a different name in the gospels.

And apparently, the Judas NOT of Thaddeus was the one that ripped him off. Jesus I mean.
#109
They all dressed like golfers, except for Wackerman, who looked like a computer programmer. And then there's Allan with his sexy white jacket.

Where did that video go of him in Tokyo with a short interview in the beginning?
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#110
Where did that video go of him in Tokyo with a short interview in the beginning?


It's on my hard drive.

Or at least, I think it is. It's a bit like some kind of Shred Jungle in there.
#111
Quote by MRavioli
They all dressed like golfers, except for Wackerman, who looked like a computer programmer. And then there's Allan with his sexy white jacket.

Where did that video go of him in Tokyo with a short interview in the beginning?

Is that the one where he says he's too Jazz for Rock radio and too Rock for Jazz radio?
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#115
When he comes through London I'm going to see if I can wrangle an interview (after all, I am with Ultimate-Guitar.com ) and ask him things like that. Also, if he knows Thorendal has a breath controller for ordinary guitar.
#116
Im not entirely sure allan would like doing a solo on a meshuggah song, because on his website it says something like "I stopped using baritone guitars because I didnt want to associate myself with the speed-metal bands that had picked them up"

although he did play a solo on a derrick sherinian tune.... (it was crap)
#117
Quote by WishfulShredder
although he did play a solo on a derrick sherinian tune.... (it was crap)


What one's that? I think everything he played on Quantum was excellent.
#118
Quote by DaFjory
What one's that? I think everything he played on Quantum was excellent.


no, not planet X, Derrick sherinian's solo project

you have a point though, his work on quantam is real good. It just annoys me that it takes away the limelight from brett garsed