Poll: Which Bugera??
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6262 212
2 18%
333XL
9 82%
Voters: 11.
#1
Right, i've just decided that my next amp will be from Bugera. I love the tone, and they're in my price range. Problem is i'm not too sure which of the two models i like i should buy. The two in consideration are the 6262 212 and the 333XL. Any help??
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#2
Tell us something about what you play. Basically, you are looking at either the Peavey 6506+, or the Peavey XXX.
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#4
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Tell us something about what you play. Basically, you are looking at either the Peavey 6506+, or the Peavey XXX.

6505+ and JSX actually
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#5
thats no help, i'm looking at the bugera's, not peavy. i'm playing all sorts of music, from classic rock to metal. most of the stuff i play is high gain.
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#6
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Im pretty sure the 6262 is pretty much a copy of the 5150?
I think that the 6260 is the 5150/6505, and the 6262 is the 6505+?
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#7
Let's do this right:

What is your budget?
What kind of music/genres/bands do you play?
Can you go used?
Will you be gigging? If so, how large?

If you are set on one of those Bugeras, answer these questions:

Do you care about cleans?
Do you want more gain/more versatility?
Will you need the noise gate of the 333XL?
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#8
Quote by shredftw
thats no help, i'm looking at the bugera's, not peavy. i'm playing all sorts of music, from classic rock to metal. most of the stuff i play is high gain.


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#9
Quote by shredftw
thats no help, i'm looking at the bugera's, not peavy. i'm playing all sorts of music, from classic rock to metal. most of the stuff i play is high gain.

They're very similar, almost exactly cloned from the Peaveys. The 333XL will do classic rock better, imo. For high gain, the 6262 might be better. It's got more br00t4lzzz.
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#10
i am set on the bugera's.

i'm not too bothered about an immaculate clean tone.
i'd like as much gain as possible with versatility.
not too sure about the noise gate.
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#11
Quote by shredftw
thats no help, i'm looking at the bugera's, not peavy. i'm playing all sorts of music, from classic rock to metal. most of the stuff i play is high gain.

Dont waste your money on a Bugera and get a used 5150.

You could probably get the head, or a combo 5150 for the same price. And you would be getting way better quality, unless you play a lot of softer stuff, the 333XL would probably have better cleans I imagine.

Or, do what I did and get an Ampeg VH-140c, its probably the br00talest amp on the face of the earth.

Its cheap too, I got my head for $300. Worth every Penny.
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#12
Quote by shredftw
i am set on the bugera's.

i'm not too bothered about an immaculate clean tone.
i'd like as much gain as possible with versatility.
not too sure about the noise gate.


I'd get the 6262, as it has a decent clean channel. High gain applications are where it shines, though. Frankly, I haven't been too impressed with Bugeras, but for heavy stuff, I can see why you would want one. You may want to run an OD on the clean channel for classic rock distortion and have the lead channel for metal.
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#13
333xl has a bit diffrent tone then the 6260 you just have to play both, I like the 333xl for lead playing it just has a smother sound to me, but I live the 6260 for almost everything else, it has a very organic sound to me
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#14
Quote by shredftw
i am set on the bugera's.

i'm not too bothered about an immaculate clean tone.
i'd like as much gain as possible with versatility.
not too sure about the noise gate.

In this case, the gain of the 6262 is greater, but the 333XL is more versatile. It's your choice really. Altough personally I think the 333s have plenty of gain on tap, and the 6260s have ridiculous amounts of gain.
The noisegate isn't that great, it's not comparable to actual noisegates.
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#15
Quote by shredftw
thats no help, i'm looking at the bugera's, not peavy. i'm playing all sorts of music, from classic rock to metal. most of the stuff i play is high gain.



no it is, u fool, hes telling you that those bugera amps are just copies of those peavey amps, really ull love peavey more, cos the bugera's u like are just knock off's of the peaveys, the peaveys will sounds better, but still, for metal & classic rock, its the 6506 or 6263 whaterver bugger's calls it. the tone and volume is brutal and the gain is epic.
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#16
does anyone know if a 6262 can get a good tone at low volumes?

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#17
Honestly, I prefer it when someone uses moderate amounts of gain to play heavy stuff, a la Paul Gilbert and John Petrucci. The 333XL will have way more versatility, and probably all the gain you will need. Plus, it has better cleans. However, the 6262 will have more balls, heavier crunch, and is generally voiced for metal. The 333XL is much smoother, almost for leads.

I would also suggest you look into an Ampeg VH140c. It's a GREAT death metal amp, and it also has epic cleans. Solid state, but arguably better than any of the Bugeras. Plus, it's super cheap used.

EDIT: Sure the 6262 can get good tone at lower volumes. Not as good is it is cranked, but it definitely doesn't sound bad.
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#18
Quote by SPBY
does anyone know if a 6262 can get a good tone at low volumes?

No, 5150s are notorious for sounding buzzy/fizzy at low volumes.
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#19
ok thanks for the advice so far. is th low volume quality on the bugera's good?? i'm living in a flat now so i dont want to piss off my neighbors too much.
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#20
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ok thanks for the advice so far. is th low volume quality on the bugera's good?? i'm living in a flat now so i dont want to piss off my neighbors too much.


Like I said, any tube amp will sound better cranked for certain things. But with metal, you use more preamp distortion anyways, so it won't make a big difference at all.

The VH140c can sound great at low volumes though, because it doesn't depend on cooking the tubes. It has none.
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#21
Well, I can run my 333 at very low volumes with good tone. It does help that I run it through a 1x12 cab and with output tubes pulled though.
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#22
Quote by shredftw
i am set on the bugera's.

i'm not too bothered about an immaculate clean tone.
i'd like as much gain as possible with versatility.
not too sure about the noise gate.


The 333XL has a pretty decent clean channel, and also has plenty of gain and versatility.

If the noise gate is works the same/similar to the JSX one, don't use it - it's not really noise gate. While it doesn't sound bad at like 6 or 7, it sucks tone around 8 or so. Just put it on 0 and you'll be happy.
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#23
Quote by ibz_bucket
Like I said, any tube amp will sound better cranked for certain things. But with metal, you use more preamp distortion anyways, so it won't make a big difference at all.

The VH140c can sound great at low volumes though, because it doesn't depend on cooking the tubes. It has none.

Plus, the VH140c is solidstate.

No tubes, it will always work, it will never sound any different.

The sound IMO is just as good if not better than several tube amps
#24
Quote by SPBY
does anyone know if a 6262 can get a good tone at low volumes?


yes, it does sound pretty good at low volumes

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No, 5150s are notorious for sounding buzzy/fizzy at low volumes.


the 6262 is modeled after the 6505+ not the 5150, and it has different characteristics and it has a sound of it's own. Similaries to peavey but still Bugera sound

EDIT: i dont know about the combos, talking about a head/cab
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#25
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yes, it does sound pretty good at low volumes



the 6262 is modeled after the 6505+ not the 5150, and it has different characteristics and it has a sound of it's own. Similaries to peavey but still Bugera sound

EDIT: i dont know about the combos, talking about a head/cab

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My 6260 sounds really good at low volumes ( live in a dorm with 3 roommates and rooms close to us, so I'm forced to low volumes a lot). It also has a very nice clean channel, really chimey and clear, especially if you eq it right. The 62** series is more versatile then people make it out to be, the crunch channel can do your classic rock/hard rock tone just as well as the 333XL. The lead channel absolutely rips it up and can find any metal tone you want.

TS, if you have more questions about Bugera amps and you don't want to get bashed for asking about them or just have people suggest other amps, there is a Bugera Militia thread that is really helpful.
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#26
The 333XL will handle classic rock or metal very nicely. I plugged in a Les Paul and played Velvet Revolver, Ozzy, AC/DC, As I Lay Dying, Killswitch Engage, Alter Bridge, ATR, and BFMV with nice sounds. I just switched from crunch to lead for appropriate gain and did a bit of eqing.