#1
Alright, I've read through the start post [stickied one at the top of R & R] & I'm only 60% getting it. I probably should go over it again for it to make sense. Anyways I have a question. I want to be able to record just 1 guitar for riffs & covers & stuff I will do. I read that I need an interface so I won't get muddy recording quality, can anyone reccomend me one that will help towards getting a nice crisp recording & has the bare minimum for input, something just for one instrument. (please excuse me I think I'm not fully sure what I'm talking about & could well be talking complete bollocks haha).

So basically I have to install the interface into my comp, when that's sorted, hook a mic to a sweet spot on my amp from a connection on the interface & record it with some software. Is that all there is to it? & Which software would you say is the best for freeware? I don't mind shedding some money out for a mid-range recording software aswell.
#2
Alright I watched that vid on youtube, by the guy who looks like steve-o, & it seems what I'm looking for is a 2.0 USB interface. I had a search & the E-mu Tracker Pre USB 2.0 sticks out to me.. Anyone used it? can they tell me if it's any good? What USB 2.0 would you reccomend for me? I'm using XP. Now I've been a bit more specific I would really appreciate if someone could help me out. Too many views and no replys. Someone must know something about recording in the recording thread...
#3
I've got the Tascam US-122L and it works....and I am normally totally untalented with technic things like that.
When I bought it it had a software program with it (Cubase Le, I think not the best but it works, too), and I would recommend Audacity as freeware, but I think reaper wouldn't be wrong, too.

E-mu is okay, I think, I remember I read some quite bad comments but others say it's great.

How much money do you want to spent?
#5
Quote by Cannibal Corpse
I'm willing to fork out £200 pounds for a USB interface.

haha im learning hammer smashed face on bass as i type
anyways id recommend this.
http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Line-6-Pod-Studio-GX-with-Pod-Farm?sku=250006

one guitar input and the sounds are on the comp. pod sounds are quite good so that should be good for you.
#6
what type of computer do you have? Mac or PC

tascam's US-122 is great for windows and Cubase is basically an idiots version of garage band.

audacity is great for linux (due to the freeness) and I just got my US-122 working with it in linux... haven't tried my other interface.

If cost is an issue, go with an M-audio fast track. It's cheap and the software reflects that... if you go this route, definitely get audacity.

I don't know much about recording in Macs... because I hate them and they suck despite what any Mac owner says to you... but that's a whole other ranting thread...
#7
Haha. I don't like Macs either. I have PC on Win XP. It's not really that cost is an issue dude, I just want something minimal that can do a decent recording with my guitar. I can spend more money on it as I can I'll save up. How do you use a USB 2.0 interface? Can you use one for recording with a mic? That's the way I want to record, not directly to my comp. You see I'm still a bit confused by this haha. I'm still at the early newb stages.
#8
Quote by Cannibal Corpse
Haha. I don't like Macs either. I have PC on Win XP. It's not really that cost is an issue dude, I just want something minimal that can do a decent recording with my guitar. I can spend more money on it as I can I'll save up. How do you use a USB 2.0 interface? Can you use one for recording with a mic? That's the way I want to record, not directly to my comp. You see I'm still a bit confused by this haha. I'm still at the early newb stages.

ill check on some interfaces, but for a guitar mic you will definantley want a shure sm57. theyre only a 100$ and its an industry standard.
#9
Quote by Cannibal Corpse
Haha. I don't like Macs either. I have PC on Win XP. It's not really that cost is an issue dude, I just want something minimal that can do a decent recording with my guitar. I can spend more money on it as I can I'll save up. How do you use a USB 2.0 interface? Can you use one for recording with a mic? That's the way I want to record, not directly to my comp. You see I'm still a bit confused by this haha. I'm still at the early newb stages.


On my profile are some examples with mic recording. Mostly just acoustic guitar and saxophone but thats because my amp is real crap...

Of cause you can mic your amp and go through the interface.

The Tascam I mentioned above would give you both choices, you could put your guitar directly into the interface, you could use a pre-amp and then go into the interface (as I do) or you could use a mic and play through an amp.
Tascam would be in your price range and I think you could buy a low-priced but good mic, too if you don't have one now.
#10
Quote by MetalBass 77
guitar mic you will definantley want a shure sm57. theyre only a 100$ and its an industry standard.
Yea I was thinking of getting that one, they're an alright price.

@ Jazzman: Those acoustic recordings sound nice man, good quality. Though I don't know what mine would sound like with a Peavey 6505 60w 2 x 12 combo. Hopefully great haha. So say I have my USB 2.0, mic, amp & comp, what do you connect to what to get it all going? I have a general idea obviously as I'm not stupid, but want to make sure.
#11
Quote by theGlitch


I don't know much about recording in Macs... because I hate them and they suck despite what any Mac owner says to you... but that's a whole other ranting thread...


So you don't know much about them, yet you feel qualified to make such harsh judgements?

Riggghht.

Leave the ignorance at the door please.

(and FYI, 99% of the audio industry is run off of Mac computers)
#12
You take your guitar and plug it into your amp. And you take your mic and plug it into your interface which is plugged into your computer. With the mic you record the amp. That's it,...quite simple, couldn't believe it at first,too when I plugged everything in and I recorded something.
#13
Quote by TheDriller
So you don't know much about them, yet you feel qualified to make such harsh judgements?

Riggghht.

Leave the ignorance at the door please.

(and FYI, 99% of the audio industry is run off of Mac computers)

+1 i use a pc and am more comfortable with a pc then a mac, but macs certainly have their advantages and ARE used by many in the entertainment business. infact id really like a mac, they are just very very expensive.
#14
Quote by Jazzman91
You take your guitar and plug it into your amp. And you take your mic and plug it into your interface which is plugged into your computer. With the mic you record the amp. That's it,...quite simple, couldn't believe it at first,too when I plugged everything in and I recorded something.
Thanks man. Really appreciate it. I'll have to get that Tascam it sounds pretty alright.

Quote by MetalBass 77
haha im learning hammer smashed face on bass as i type
anyways id recommend this.
http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Line-6-Pod-Studio-GX-with-Pod-Farm?sku=250006

one guitar input and the sounds are on the comp. pod sounds are quite good so that should be good for you.
Sweet! It's easy isn't it! You want to learn Bent Backwards & Broken! Thanks for reccomending that, I'll have a look into it. I missed this post by you somehow.
Last edited by Cannibal Corpse at Sep 28, 2009,
#15
People who hate Macs are GENERALLY just too friggin' dirt poor to afford one... I use a G5 system and also running a killer Windows 7 system and the MAC is a Cadillac! It's like the Hyndai salesman badmouthing Mecedes Benz
Now running an Eleven Rack with Pro Tools 10.3.3 - it's amazing and I'm having ball with it - worth every penny. PT 10 is tops IMO and the Eleven Rack is a work of art!
#16
Quote by Cannibal Corpse
Thanks man. Really appreciate it. I'll have to get that Tascam it sounds pretty alright.

Sweet! It's easy isn't it! You want to learn Bent Backwards & Broken! Thanks for reccomending that, I'll have a look into it. I missed this post by you somehow.

haha its a bit hard with fingers on bass, but the actual fretting of the song aint bad. also go with an interface with a mic input if you want to mic your amp and get a shure sm57. THEY ARE INDUSTRY STANDARD. haha jsyk.
#18
Quote by theGlitch

Cubase is basically an idiots version of garage band.



Wait... What?

Im pretty sure thats definately not true
#19
Quote by drawnacrol
hahahaha its so true, especially the way they try to make up excuses for not getting mac like how games don't work with them or are not VST compatible, which is untrue

well mac royally sucks for gaming haha but for audio id prob like to have one, but their is no better, just merely differences.
#20
Quote by MetalBass 77
but their is no better, just merely differences.


You'd be supprised. my setup is PC hardware dual-booting Mac OS X and Windows. (a FrankenMac if you will) , and OS X destroys Windows in terms of performance, on the exact same hardware.

If i load up the same project in the Ableton Live 8 demo, on both operating systems, on average OS X will be using 20% less cpu than Windows. i've tried this with both Vista and XP, both tweaked, and OS X still pwns them.

plus, i can get the buffers set lower without glitches, and the whole OS X Core Audio system is awesome.

Now im not an Apple fanboy, but i've had the insight into the differences between the operating systems on identical hardware, and there is no question in my mind which is better.

20% is a pretty big amount of "better" in my opinion.
#21
Quote by TheDriller
You'd be supprised. my setup is PC hardware dual-booting Mac OS X and Windows. (a FrankenMac if you will) , and OS X destroys Windows in terms of performance, on the exact same hardware.

If i load up the same project in the Ableton Live 8 demo, on both operating systems, on average OS X will be using 20% less cpu than Windows. i've tried this with both Vista and XP, both tweaked, and OS X still pwns them.

plus, i can get the buffers set lower without glitches, and the whole OS X Core Audio system is awesome.

Now im not an Apple fanboy, but i've had the insight into the differences between the operating systems on identical hardware, and there is no question in my mind which is better.

20% is a pretty big amount of "better" in my opinion.

yes i suppose, but that doesnt mean you cant use a pc for audio production. pc has more for its money, but mac is prob better for not worrying about viruses and the like. when it comes down to it, its really waht "you" want. although i do now xp and vista are resource hogs.
#22
Quote by MetalBass 77
yes i suppose, but that doesnt mean you cant use a pc for audio production. pc has more for its money, but mac is prob better for not worrying about viruses and the like. when it comes down to it, its really waht "you" want. although i do now xp and vista are resource hogs.


I think you summed it up well.

Sure, a windows based PC will usually give more raw power per dollar, but raw power isn't everything. when one gets more serious about audio, and eventually starts doing work, then stability and reliability becomes very important.

the problem with PCs is that regardless of how much ram it has, or how good the processor is, it will still be cursed with having Windows as its OS. and that means the risk of contamination and the inevitable degradation of the system over time, regardless of how clean you keep it.

now, before anyone gets all uppity about that statement, im typing this from my windows machine

for serious work, even just the fact that windows systems are vulnerable to viruses is enough to disuade me from using them.

the last thing i need is to be working on a mix and then have a sudden system-wide crash ruin my work.

one of the major benifits of OS X is that it doesn't fall apart over time in the way Windows does. my studio OS X install is running the same today as it did a year ago.

in the same timeframe all of my windows installs on various machines have degraded to the point of needing at least one clean-install.

however, whether an individual can stomach the sheer cost of a good mac is entirely up to them.
#23
Quote by strangedogs
People who hate Macs are GENERALLY just too friggin' dirt poor to afford one... I use a G5 system and also running a killer Windows 7 system and the MAC is a Cadillac! It's like the Hyndai salesman badmouthing Mecedes Benz


I don't hate mac, but i prefer windows, because theres so many more plugins and such for windows. VST and VSTi isn't supported on mac.


And the guy above me here is amplyfing the problem a lot, if you have a internet secuirity, you won't get uninvited vieruses while working on a mix. You can recover windows with a DVD following or maybe the recovery files are on your computer.

Sorry mac, windows rules (no offence).
Last edited by GisleAune at Oct 1, 2009,
#24
Quote by GisleAune
I don't hate mac, but i prefer windows, because theres so many more plugins and such for windows. VST and VSTi isn't supported on mac.


Incorrect, VST, AU and RTAS are supported on Mac, but the VST in question needs to be mac-compatible.


Quote by GisleAune

And the guy above me here is amplyfing the problem a lot, if you have a internet secuirity, you won't get uninvited vieruses while working on a mix. You can recover windows with a DVD following or maybe the recovery files are on your computer.

Sorry mac, windows rules (no offence).


Again, i'm well aware of how antivirus works, (god knows i should do, i've been using windows for 16 years), but that is exactly the problem, weighing down a work system with more junk aside from the audio utilities. and in order to keep an anti-virus up to date, you need an internet connection on that machine, not recommended practice for doing audio work.

with OS X, i have none of those worries. if i want to i can take a brand new mac out of the box, never hook it up to the internet at all, just boot up, install the software and im working within minutes. and if i felt like it, i could load up some real nastly porn sites while im working and have absolutely no fear of viruses.

as for the wole "recovering from a dvd" racket, that really shouldn't be necessary. OS X stays on its feet perfectly without needing to be recovered regularly. (and yes, i spent about 2 years using XP for audio production, so im well acquainted with the need for a clean install every few months just to keep the damn thing from falling apart)

Microsoft have gone a long way toward convincing people that such inconveniences and woeful system stability are just a fact of life.
#25
Quote by TheDriller

in order to keep an anti-virus up to date, you need an internet connection on that machine, not recommended practice for doing audio work.


This much is obvious, but if you dont have an internet connection on your production PC, how are you going to get a virus to begin with?

Quote by TheDriller

with OS X, i have none of those worries. if i want to i can take a brand new mac out of the box, never hook it up to the internet at all, just boot up, install the software and im working within minutes. and if i felt like it, i could load up some real nastly porn sites while im working and have absolutely no fear of viruses.


The same can be said of a Windows PC. I do not use any antivirus, I do use porn, and i do record on my Windows PC and I do NOT have viruses.


Quote by TheDriller

as for the wole "recovering from a dvd" racket, that really shouldn't be necessary. OS X stays on its feet perfectly without needing to be recovered regularly. (and yes, i spent about 2 years using XP for audio production, so im well acquainted with the need for a clean install every few months just to keep the damn thing from falling apart)


As long as you are organized in the way you save your files and where and don't overload the harddrive I have had no problems with Windows

Quote by TheDriller

Microsoft have gone a long way toward convincing people that such inconveniences and woeful system stability are just a fact of life.


For people who don't know how to use a computer, besides a lot of instability is caused by drivers/programs and not with just Windows itself. Mac doesn't have this issue because you just can't use anything on it. Using a Mac would be VERY inconvenient for me because I would have to learn a whole new system.


At the end of the day, I just don't like Apple and that's why I wont get a Mac and I dont use iTunes or have an iPod either.
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#26
Quote by JMeasles
This much is obvious, but if you dont have an internet connection on your production PC, how are you going to get a virus to begin with?




Any time you transfer files between your internet and produciton machines, you run this risk. a lot of what i do involves getting files from people over the internet and using usb hard-drives to transfer sessions.

Quote by JMeasles
As long as you are organized in the way you save your files and where and don't overload the harddrive I have had no problems with Windows


I'd beg to differ on this point. take a brand new clean install of Windows (XP or Vista) on any machine. as soon as it has finished setting up, install and run CCleaner (or any other registry scanner) and it will reveal that errors have already started to occur, mere seconds into its working life. i agree though, that bad user practices can lead to a lot more problems,

Quote by JMeasles
For people who don't know how to use a computer, besides a lot of instability is caused by drivers/programs and not with just Windows itself.


see, believe it or not, computer crashes are not normal, the hardware is designed to run constantly for weeks at a time without crashing. it really should not come down to a matter of "people who know what they are doing". and thats my point, according to microsoft, this is something windows users will just have to live with. when the system trips over itself, its the user that gets blamed, not the buggy system.

on top of all this we have the fact that Windows itself, (compared to Unix based systems) from its very first version has been an unstable, poorly coded mess.
the registry is a twitchy little disaster, (a database of system settings, exposed to the outside world and for anny application to mess with in whatever way it sees fit,) where a single ****up can bring the system crashing to its knees.


Now, im not an apple fanboy, i dont own an ipod and i don't have any interest in telling you (or anyone else) how to go about your business. im just relating my experience of running both OS X and various versions of windows on the same hardware, and there is no question at all as to which is the best operating system.

now, apple hardware on the other hand, is extremely overpriced