#2
C Dorian.


Assuming you mean the acoustic guitar solo starting at around 1:26.

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#3
Quote by xxdarrenxx
C dorian.


Assuming you mean the acoustic guitar solo starting at around 1:26.


yeah I do.. I'm trying to learn it, but I couldnt figure out what scale..

I learned the rest of the song, but just by ear.. is there anything else you picked up on that song that might help me out.. like what key signature it's in. chords, etc.

i really appreciate it btw
#5
Quote by blink_fan
I havn't listened to it, but its in either Bb major or G minor.


makes sense.. G minor was my assumption, but I didnt want to sound ignorant
#6
The song's in F. Maybe F mixolydian? If not, it's definitely Bb major.
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Last edited by food1010 at Sep 29, 2009,
#7
Quote by food1010
The song's in F. Maybe F mixolydian? If not, it's definitely Bb major.


why is that
#8
Actually I agree with food1010. I confuse 5th's sometime bwaaah.


It's not C Dorian like I Said earlier, but F Mixolydian indeed.

It's because of F being the tonal centre, and the bass is playing the notes: F, C and Eb.


Since all the notes are played of Bb major, but the tonal centre is the F, it's F mixolydian.

Although modes are not allowed to be used as names for key's; the key is indeed Bb Major.

Though personally I find it in a situation like this a bit misleading.

There are quite some people denoting this with a small note.

In your example, you could just make the key signature of Bb Major, but write with a note under it saying *key signature denotes F Mixolydian.

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#10
Quote by acoolbuffguy
do you people have ears it is not mixolydian and it is not ****ing modal


then what scale is it?

and how can you tell.
#11
Quote by acoolbuffguy
do you people have ears it is not mixolydian and it is not ****ing modal



Shut up, you're not contributing.

TS;

The bass line vamps this the whole time.

(there are slight stylistic variations throughout, but this is the main gist)

G|---------------------------------------|
D|-------1--5-1-3-----------1--5---1---3-|
A|-----3------------------3----------3---|
E|-1--------------(1)-1------------------|


F is definitely the tonal centre.

Technically it could be both F Dorian and F Mixolydian, due to the 3rd not present in the riff.

Here is the first melody being played;
e|--10-11-10------------8-10-11-10------13---12-11-10-11-10--------10-8---10-|
B|-----------11-8-----11-----------11-----------------------11-8-------------|
G|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
D|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
A|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
E|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|

Here is the riff that is being played just before the acoustic guitar solo.

e|-----------------------------------------------------8-----|
B|--11---8--11-10--------8-10--11---8--11-10p8------------12-|
G|-----8----------10---8----------8------------10--(8)-------|
D|-----------------------------------------------------------|
A|-----------------------------------------------------------|
E|-----------------------------------------------------------|

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#12
does it sound mixolydian? no, it does not
therefore
not mixolydian
and to be modal there are No Accidentals Allowed which you can obviously hear there are
and the center does not stay the same throughout the song either, another thing you kind of need for modal music
Last edited by acoolbuffguy at Oct 1, 2009,
#13
Quote by acoolbuffguy
does it sound mixolydian? no, it does not
therefore
not mixolydian
and to be modal there are No Accidentals Allowed which you can obviously hear there are
and the center does not stay the same throughout the song either, another thing you kind of need for modal music


so tell me, then. what scale is being used. that's all im asking.
#14
Quote by acoolbuffguy
does it sound mixolydian? no, it does not
therefore
not mixolydian
and to be modal there are No Accidentals Allowed which you can obviously hear there are
and the center does not stay the same throughout the song either, another thing you kind of need for modal music


That particular section of the song IS modal though. Read xxdarrenxx's post. The bass is clearly outlining a vamp that sets the mode. The entire song might not be modal, but that section seems to be.
#15
Ok, if you want to get technical, it's tonal, in F, and it uses the dominant 7th scale. I usually don't like to refer to the scale as the dominant 7th scale, so I say the mixo scale instead. I guess that's incorrect, but I was not inferring that the song was modal.
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