#1
On Sunday, I am planing on trading my beloved Traynor YCV80X12 and 150 dollars for a Peavey Valveking half stack with a Peavey Triple X bottom. I have abused the crap out of my Traynor for the last 8 years, and it needs work to become the amp I want again(re-tubing, broken vol pot, new biasing circuit).

I play progressive metal and death metal, but I need pretty good cleans for the progressive aspect. With mixing a chorus and delay pedal in the mix, would the cleans get close to my Traynor??? I know the distortion can get hard enough because I have played one at about 3 vol, and it cranked out my favorite Behemoth riffs with ease.

So I guess what I'm asking is if the cleans would be good enough and if this would be a good deal?
Quote by LuthierofTexas
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#2
Yes I believe it does. The Valveking has surprising good cleans. Someone in the VK thread said the drive channel is a strait up Marshall tone stack and clean channel is a strait up Fender tone stack.

If you want more info, I'd ask in teh Valveking thread - you'll get some good, honest feedback.

As far as your Traynor goes, is the buyer aware of the issues?
#3
Quote by 311ZOSOVHJH
Yes I believe it does. The Valveking has surprising good cleans. Someone in the VK thread said the drive channel is a strait up Marshall tone stack and clean channel is a strait up Fender tone stack.

If you want more info, I'd ask in teh Valveking thread - you'll get some good, honest feedback.

As far as your Traynor goes, is the buyer aware of the issues?

Oh yea, he knows everything wrong. It still runs strong, and thats all he cares about.
Quote by LuthierofTexas
You have no experience with racks??? What kind of guy are you?
#4
Cool


Actually, if your trader knows a little bit about amps, that shouldn't be a big deal to fix.

Have you visited the Clipz page of the VK thread in OP? Some of those guys have great clips with and without mods. Necrophagist777, Raijouta, dudey, Jason, I forget all of them.
#5
Honestly I'd avoid the VK if you're after a metal tone.

The VK is best suited for blues rock based music. Its pretty muddy and lifeless, and doesn't handle high gain situations well (imo).

There are numerous mods that are available for the VK that are suppose to add more gain and improve the tone, but I personally don't think they work very well and aren't worth the money.

If I were you I would just hold on to my Traynor. If you really need a new amp you could sell it and grab yourself an Ampeg VH-140c for a few hundred bucks.
#6
^all good points really. The VK is not a metal machine out of the box.


TS has played it already and liked it.


Here are some clips worth listening too....and surf your Craigslist for deals. That's what I always tell people. You can find used 5150s/6505s/XXX/Ultras/Ampegs etc like Will was saying.


sg622 - Clean and Lead clippys. With and without TS OD Great Metal demos..........
http://profile.ultimate-guitar.com/sg622/music/


Necrophagist777 - 112 w/Eminence Man O War, Boosted by BM (Metal)


Bartdevil_Metal - V30 Mod (Shred, Jazz, Surf Rock) ~112


IbanezPsycho - Modded to **** (Metal) ~Head


Raijouta - Clean and lead clips, blues, and Vai/Satch tones WGS Vet30 speaker~112


Sadistic_Sponge - 112 Stock? 11 minute demo is great, heavy starts half way thru.
http://profile.ultimate-guitar.com/Sadistic+sponge/


YOUTUBE


100 Head stock - hardcore punk post production ****************
http://profile.ultimate-guitar.com/elguapo2k/music/

112 Blues clip - great clip and you can tell it is a Valveking.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nzeffsw7z_U

Same dude doing Satch's Always with you always with me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTETgE33FfQ&feature=related

Stock 112 ...cool clip, i post this all the time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CI117wHoKQ

Last edited by 311ZOSOVHJH at Sep 30, 2009,
#7
Well 311, as we all know tone is subjective.

I personally don't like the VK, but my ears aren't yours and neither of ours are the TS's.

If he's played a VK and likes it then that's his opinion


#9
whats TS :P


man the ampeg sound the perfect deal for you..
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whats TS :P


man the ampeg sound the perfect deal for you..
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#11
The VK comes with new JJ preamps and i think EH 6l6's installed. He said it has more dynamics and cleans up with the guitar volume on distortion now as well. I am interested in more of the cleans now, I know if needed I can use an overdrive to get what I want.

My friends 5150 cleans are to brittle and way too trebely. I have played the cleans on the VK for a while, but I was wondering if they were darker and had a little more bass in the mix.

Thanks for the responses tho,
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#12
Well, I don't play cleans on mine very often but it does have 6L6s and a Fender tone stack for a reason. The cleans are better than a 5150 and some claim as good as Fender cleans (a bit of a stretch).

You can also put in a TungSol preamp of two to make the clean channel better. JJ's are pretty dark tubes and more geared for more gain. Preamp tubes are like 10 bucks.

An EQ pedal will help you as well. I got a new Danoelectric Fish n Chips EQ for $40.

Listen to some of the clips I pointed you too. Specifically sg622, Raijouta, and that Satch Always with you Always with me youtube clippy.


B52's AT112 have nice cleans too for $370 that is a lot of amp if you can find one.