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axemanchris
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Go ahead! Share any interesting and useful vocal exercises, or talk about what exercises to use, etc.

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I'll give this a shot.

Vowels are what gives each word a sound. Therefore it is important to work on the sounds you create singing by working on vowels.

Start with any note, and drone it with the vowels A, E, I, O, U.

I really should post a clip of what it sounds like, but without stopping you go;

AAAAAAEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIIIOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUU

Then shift it up a little/down a little.
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I'm not sure if Warm-ups=Exercises, but I might as well throw it in here.

During the Musical that my school did, the chorus director had us warm up using a variety of warm up techniques, one was a basic scale which was like "One- One two one- one two three two one- one two three four three two one- one two three four five four three two one- one two three four five six five four three two one- one two three four five six sev six five four three two one- one two three four five six sev one sev six five four three two one" To make it a bit challenging, choose a number and replace saying that number with a clap of the hands, like "One two *clap* four five four *clap* two one"

Don't know if that's what you're looking for, but I thought I'd share it.
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Hey, i have a question about warming up exercises... are there any really good ones that i could do (like on a youtube video or something)?

And also, how long should you do a warm up for? How many?


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10-40 minutes. Longer the better. You want to get your facial muscles stretched out (Lion face, scrunched face), typical vowel exercises, run up n down some arpeggios, try ennunciating everything really clearly like a fancy person, singing some songs with out the style (Crunch/distortion, fancy slides, just straight pitches).
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Warmups my teacher has us do in class:

(Previously mentioned)

Do
Do Re Do
Do Re Mi Re Do
and so on.

Then starting from the top.
Do
Do Ti Do
Do Ti La Ti Do


Practicing enunciation using tongue twisters, and some other thing we use :x

A cup of proper coffee in a proper coffee cup (we use this for our tongue twister)

B, D, F, L, M, N, T, V, V, V
'Cause diction is done with the tip of the tongue and the teeth.

(Make sure you are enunciating each letter clearly)

I'll try to get some audio samples on Tuesday, I'll ask my teacher if I can just record us doing our warmups.




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It is important to note that the main "vowels" in singing are in fact pronounced

"eh" (canadian, eh?)
"ee" (like bee)
"eye"
"oh"
"oooh" (like ooooh, shiny!)
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PS: does anyone have excersises strictly to develop the head voice?
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I enjoy grabbing an instrument and going up scales while humming out the exact pitch so that I can improve descending and ascending patterns in my voice.

Humming out tunes that you've heard also helps for training the voice into finding a good pitch.

Before I am going to sing I usually bubble my lips so that the words flow freely and effortlessly. Bubble your lips like you are bubbling inbetween water. Kind of like bubbbubbubb, but very fast.

Remember to treat your voice exactly as you would an instrument. That mentality helped me gain good pitch and tone. Another good tip is to find your voice by trying out different ways of saying words along with a note.

I sing a lot and I think i'm confident enough to say I have a good toned singing voice.

PM me for any questions. I'd be more than happy to help!
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Quote by Jason_Clement
It is important to note that the main "vowels" in singing are in fact pronounced

"eh" (canadian, eh?)
"ee" (like bee)
"eye"
"oh"
"oooh" (like ooooh, shiny!)


Don't forget "Aw" as in Awkward, or open your mouth and say "Ahhh".

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I know it sounds crazy, but try to learn to inhale your voice. www.thebelcantotechnique.com

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! totally forgot, thanks axemanchris. lol. i haven't been in vocals class for a couple months...

hoping to enlist in private lessons now that I'm in University. I really wanna learn how to sing properly an epic-ly...

But to revise that, the main singing vowels are

"eh" (canadian, eh?)
"ee" (like bee)
"eye"
"oh"
"oooh" (like ooooh, shiny!)
and
"aw" (as in awwwwkward).

doing these to any scales at all will help. I'll try to take a video of me doing a fun vocal excersise that helps strengthen your diaphragm that I can't explain that helped me a lot...

That's a task for tomorrow.
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Hmmm, interesting. I just sing songs I know how to sing to warm up.... maybe that's not such a good thing...
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Quote by Invokke_Havokk
Warmups my teacher has us do in class:

(Previously mentioned)

Do
Do Re Do
Do Re Mi Re Do
and so on.

Then starting from the top.
Do
Do Ti Do
Do Ti La Ti Do


I've had a teacher do this before, too. Try doing it while leaving out "Mi" and "La".
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What exercises can I do (or is there any) to increase my chest voice range, or at least make the upper part of it more comfortable and less forced? I can get pretty high in my chest, but it gets very loud, uncomfortable, and pretty shitty sounding when I get to the upper notes.
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What are some good excercises to help the break in my voice get smaller?

Not sure if i worded that right lol oh well
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^^

When a singer breaths with his diaphram and sings with it, it will always outlast and be better soundnig that singings on top of ur lungs
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what type of warm ups should I be doing?>
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Another former student of my instructor's got to digitizing Ed's instructional video where he explains the technique in considerable detail.

It's broken up into nine parts, with the ninth clip being vocal exercises. There are, I think three there that are *exactly* the ones I did in my lessons and do with my students.

http://belcanto.myseriestv.com/showList.php

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Could I get some more talent in the monitors, please?

I know it sounds crazy, but try to learn to inhale your voice. www.thebelcantotechnique.com

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Quote by Jason_Clement
PS: does anyone have excersises strictly to develop the head voice?

http://www.goodrichvocal.com/education/voicelesson_men.htm
found it on this forum actualy. Some good stuff

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21mG5nEnN3k
and here.
helped me to understand that I already was using my head voice. lol

BTW, what do you thing of this guy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21mG5nEnN3k of this

Another former student of my instructor's got to digitizing Ed's instructional video where he explains the technique in considerable detail.

It's broken up into nine parts, with the ninth clip being vocal exercises. There are, I think three there that are *exactly* the ones I did in my lessons and do with my students.

http://belcanto.myseriestv.com/showList.php

It says:
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Hrm.... damn.

CT
Could I get some more talent in the monitors, please?

I know it sounds crazy, but try to learn to inhale your voice. www.thebelcantotechnique.com

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So can you find some videos (or give a clue where i can) about this bel Canto tech? Main thing I want is to hear good example of its use.
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Another good exercise that I have been using to increase the range on my Phyreangal Falsetto/Head Voice screams (Halford style) are basically sirens.

I start on the Lowest note I can hit in Falsetto and then jump to an octave up in falsetto.
I then go to the next note up in the scale from the lowest note, then I jump to an octave up from that note. Wash, rinse, repeat.

I also do this during warm-ups so I can get into my range easier when I start singing.
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Quote by AlanHB
I'll give this a shot.

Vowels are what gives each word a sound. Therefore it is important to work on the sounds you create singing by working on vowels.

Start with any note, and drone it with the vowels A, E, I, O, U.

I really should post a clip of what it sounds like, but without stopping you go;

AAAAAAEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIIIOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUU

Then shift it up a little/down a little.


I did this and my dog ran over to me and laid his head in my lap, as if he was concerned about me. Lol. XD
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i can't really afford vocal lessons, especially since i think i have a pretty terrible voice, and i'd like to see if it's actually any good before i start getting them. but even if i do decide to get lessons i probably won't be able to for a while.

so, my questions: are there any simple exercises (particularly involving technique) that don't really require a teacher? if i recorded myself singing with what i presume would be incorrect technique (just to see if i'm any good) would that sound drastically different to correct technique (for example, if i had a kind of gravelly tone or something, would it sound slightly smoother if i had the correct technique)?
and would it be bad for me to chuck on an album that goes for around 40 minutes, and sing along with that once a week?

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can anyone help? i was also wondering if singing success is useful even to people who don't have a teacher...everyone here seems to say you need a teacher, but i've heard a lot of people saying they ditched their teachers after buying it.
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Alright, so my choir teacher (i know, rock and choir are different genres)
is having me do these excersises that make me feel like i'm frying my throat. And i'm kind of getting sick of it. Her excersises are the basic do-re-mi-fa-sol-lo-ti-da reverse. and what not, but she won't teach me how to get my voice similar to the point of Escape The Fate's Ronnie or The Devil Wears Prada's lead/screamer.
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Alright, so my choir teacher (i know, rock and choir are different genres)
is having me do these excersises that make me feel like i'm frying my throat. And i'm kind of getting sick of it. Her excersises are the basic do-re-mi-fa-sol-lo-ti-da reverse. and what not, but she won't teach me how to get my voice similar to the point of Escape The Fate's Ronnie or The Devil Wears Prada's lead/screamer.

Okay, before I get shit for this, I meant as in like similar to theirs. Not exactly like it
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Quote by auratohna
Alright, so my choir teacher (i know, rock and choir are different genres)
is having me do these excersises that make me feel like i'm frying my throat. And i'm kind of getting sick of it. Her excersises are the basic do-re-mi-fa-sol-lo-ti-da reverse. and what not, but she won't teach me how to get my voice similar to the point of Escape The Fate's Ronnie or The Devil Wears Prada's lead/screamer.


Have you tried completely relaxing your throat while you sing? If your throat is tense, it's going to have that feeling to it.

As for her not teaching you that vocal style, I don't blame her. It's very easy to destroy your vocals that way, and choir directors have too much respect for the voice to do that much abuse to it.
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An exercise I used to do was to pick a note and start holding it down for a few seconds followed by singing that same note but an octave higher.. once you got the note on both octaves you start going up or down, whatever you prefer..
Of course you gotta keep in mind to portion your air..
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How about getting notes that are high like Shaant from Cute.
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One Vocal exercise is
"One- One two one- one two three two one- one two three four three two one- one two three four five four three two one- one two three four five six five four three two one- one two three four five six sev six five four three two one- one two three four five six sev one sev six five four three two one" To make it a bit challenging, choose a number and replace saying that number with a clap of the hands, like "One two *clap* four five four *clap* two one"
do it everyday........
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hello,

warm ups... i think i am not doing warmup. actually i just sing first for the lower note songs and slowly going higher as my voice is awakening. And doing this everyday is very nice, your voice will become more beautiful.

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can anyone help? i was also wondering if singing success is useful even to people who don't have a teacher...everyone here seems to say you need a teacher, but i've heard a lot of people saying they ditched their teachers after buying it.


Wowzers! You're in Canberra too!

I was actually given a pirated version of Singing Success for my birthday a couple of years ago. It is good, but still doesn't give you constant feedback, or is able to recognise what you personally have to work on for your singing.

My singing teacher in Canberra is actually very good. I can PM you her details if you're interested. If she's booked out she can at least point you in the direction of another good teacher.
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Well, this is for the guy who asked for exercises. Yes, exercises will make your voice sound better if executed correctly. That's what they were created for, aye?

First you need to make sure about a few basic things. You should stand up straight, but your shoulders should remain naturally down, so that you don't have some kind of an artificial military posture. Now, as you breath in, I suggest doing so through your mouth, and seeing that your whole waist expands (=breathing low, to stomach). You don't want to raise your shoulders or chest. Also to add power to your tone, contracting your abs downwards is crucial. It feels sort of like blowing a candle (notice how your abs contract). This is the only way you want to contract your abs (do not tense them as if someone punched you or anything else) - this is referred to as support. Contrary to a quite popular myth, support IS NOT pushing a lot of air with your diaphragm. You should push only as much air as you need to vocalize on that tone. In fact, you need only as much air that when you sing an open vowel and put a lit candle before your mouth, the flame is not affected. Therefore it's good to imagine that your in fact inhaling (even though you're doing the opposite!). This will make sure that you're not too breathy. Now as you execute that tone, make sure you direct it to the soft palate and try to feel your teeth buzzing from that vibration. Keep your throat open so that you don't sound nasal. There is a reliable test for this. Pinch your nose and sing something. If this affects your tone, then you have to open your throat a bit more, because your tone must remain unaffected by pinching your nose. To feel the sensation of an open throat, yawn. I think I explained everything important.

Now, just a little pointer. When doing exercises (or singing for that matter), there are some drinks that can keep your voice in good condition. First, I suggest a teaspoon of fresh lemon juice (just squeeze s little in your mouth), but no more. I once drank a cup of lemon juice in belief it would help my voice, but in such amounts it does the exact opposite. Sipping hot water with honey can help, too. Just put one tablespoon of honey in a cup and add to about 1/3 of cold water, then fill the other 2/3 with boiling water (honey shouldn't be mixed with boiling water, that's why I mix cold+boiling). And finally a lot of room-temperature water. Drink this always, because your vocal folds need to be hydrated and fresh water is best for this.

Before doing the actual exercises, there are some warm-ups that others already mentioned - lip bubbles, gargling, humming, zzzz sound, nnnn sound etc. From 10 to 30 minutes of these is essential, especially if it's morning.

Now when you feel you're ready, let's tackle some real exercises.
1, portamento exercises
There are waaay too many variations of this exercise, but I suggest using octave slides. Begin on a pitch in the lower part of your range, sustain it for two to four seconds and slide slooowly up an octave and then sustain it until you run out of breath. This is best done in your full voice (but not shouting), it's a full-out exercise. Then continue upscale until you reach your highest pitch. Let's say you started on C3, slided up to C4 and sustained. Then you started on C#3, slided up to C#4 and sustained...all the way up to F3->F4 slide. Now come back to C3, slide up to C4, hold for a few seconds, and slide back down and sustain. Then B2, up to B3, back to B2 and sustain. And continue downscale until you reach your lowest pitch. It's equally important to train your bottom, so don't neglect it, ok?

2, mesa di voce (spelling?)
As the name suggests, this is an old Italian exercise. This is probably the toughest exercise out there, but very beneficial. Choose a pitch that is somewhere above the halfway of your range (let's say you're a baritone with a comfortable range from G2 to Eb4, so you may pick anywhere between A3 and C4). Execute the pitch with a small falsetto-like soft tone (but not whispering), but I want you to keep it ''breath-free'' (not using too much air). Now start increasing the volume. To do this, it's helpful if you imagine a beam pointing out of your mouth (=this will be your tone). First this beam is very tiny and not too flashy, but it will be becoming increasingly flashy and really wide, too. Also, ab support (read above) is absolutely crucial here. For the first week, you may be performing crescendo (increasing volume), the second weak you may change it to diminuendo (decreasing volume) and then the third week you may combine it (crescendo and then diminuendo on a single breath). Just like the above exercise, continue upscale by half-steps and then come back to the original pitch and work downscale.

3, sustaining the tone
Nothing really to explain here. Just sustain a tone in your full voice for as long as you can. This is a great breathing exercise. Start on a comfortable tone, then work upscale and then downscale. Use a stopwatch if you want.

And remember to RELAX!! NEVER STRAIN!!

After you perform these three exercises, you can proceed to some singing (I mean songs) or some endurance exercises (scales and the likes). Or you can leave it at that. But when you're finished, always cool down. Just perform a few of the warm-ups and it'll be fine.

You might want to consider these books:
http://books.google.com/books?id=RPOuHev49YkC&pg=PT73&dq=rock+singers+survival+manual&ei=gr77S_fnD6n8yATC9sjaCg&hl=sk&cd=2#v=onepage&q=rock%20singers%20survival%20manual&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=GKji2afEA-gC&printsec=frontcover&dq=secrets+of+singing&ei=sdneS6uqKqfyygSUhJHhCQ&hl=sk&cd=1#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=I0e-b3xDwo8C&printsec=frontcover&dq=raise+your+voice&ei=4MT7S8ijOYv2yQT8jdGoBg&hl=sk&cd=3#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=qZS4E78pongC&printsec=frontcover&dq=rock+n+roll+singer+survival&ei=9MT7S6HsEY-oygSN0NjaAQ&hl=sk&cd=1#v=onepage&q=rock%20n%20roll%20singer%20survival&f=false

Go ahead!
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Quote by axemanchris

It's broken up into nine parts, with the ninth clip being vocal exercises. There are, I think three there that are *exactly* the ones I did in my lessons and do with my students.

http://belcanto.myseriestv.com/showList.php

CT


I watched the first two and they were very good. The best explanations I have seen among many singing DVD's and youtube videos. But that lady in the video was very distracting
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Yes, I see they're working again.

The man in the video is my instructor. He was the youngest tenor (at the time anyways) to ever join the Metropolitan Opera and has taught a lot of people in the Canadian music industry - Brian Vollmer from Helix, Gill Moore from Triumph, Andy Curran, Daniel Lanois, etc.

Though the video is very good, learning the technique really does require having someone sit with you and lead you through it, though.

@slayert - a couple of corrections. You should not push or contract with the diaphragm. Support comes from holding the diaphragm outwards, as if it were still filled with air. Check out the bottom part, "the hold of the breath" for more. http://thebelcantotechnique.now-here-this.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=33&Itemid=35

Second, never aim the sound at the soft palate. The soft palate will merely absorb the sound and you will have to work much harder to create a tone. Compare beating the bejeezus out of a beanbag chair with a baseball bat to rapping easily on a large garbage bin. The latter represents the volume and ease you will get by aiming sound at your hard palate.

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I know it sounds crazy, but try to learn to inhale your voice. www.thebelcantotechnique.com

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What are some warmups I should be doing for metalcore singing? If you have any, please comment them onto my profile
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sorry i haven't checked in on your responses, i thought i had. must have been on a different thread.

slayert, cheers for the exercises, i'll try them out.

alan: the details would be great. won't be able to afford lessons for a little while though.
also, would it be worth it to get singing success anyway? or does that style kind of conflict with the teachers style?
i was thinking it might be good to get that, and then when i have more money coming in, get lessons.

cheers.
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