#1

E||-----------------------------------------------9-10-11-12-||
B||-------------------------------------8-9-10-11------------||
G||---------------------------8-9-10-11----------------------||
D||------------------7-8-9-10--------------------------------||
A||----------6-7-8-9-----------------------------------------||
E||--5-6-7-8-------------------------------------------------||

I see it as a whole tone/chromatic scale, Ive heard the term "half tone scale" but im not sure what this is...

also this one
E||-------------------------11-13-||
B||-------------------10-12-------||
G||--------------8-10-------------||
D||----------7-9------------------||
A||------6-8----------------------||
E||--5-7--------------------------||

same thing but i took out every second tone or its like a Dimminished/augument thing with a Major 2nd (1-M2-b5-#5)


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#2
There isn't a single whole tone in there (the first diagram). That's just a chromatic scale. It contains all 12 notes.
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#3
the first scale contains
R b2 2 b3 #4 5 b6 bb7
or some such variant (it's octatonic so it must contain at least 2 intervals that are the same degree (in this case b2 and 2))
dunno how you would name it though potentially if you counted the #4 as a b5 you could claim it is a close relative of the locrian? but really i think it's just a chromatic scale minus a few notes

as for the second- it has only 4 notes, not what i'd call a full scale. In this case i'd name them
R 2 #4 #5 or R 2 b5 b6
that'd be taken from an altered lydian or phyrigian. Again i wouldn't name these as such though - i'd just call it a run of notes and name the notes.
#4
I really wouldn't call those scales. For the first one, it's probably a scale with some chromatics added, and the second one is just that same scale with notes dropped (as you said).

Context for these?
#5
The second scale is called the whole tone scale, and is part of the symmetrical scales.

The first one is random.

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The first one is just the chromatic scale. He uses different notes in both octaves. If you look at the whole thing, all 12 notes are represented.
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^ oh yer - hadn't noticed he was using different things in different octaves - you're right it's the full chromatic.
I don't see how the 2nd is whole tone though - it only contains 4 notes
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^ oh yer - hadn't noticed he was using different things in different octaves - you're right it's the full chromatic.
I don't see how the 2nd is whole tone though - it only contains 4 notes



True, but I feel it would be the best name.

His thing doesn't contain a 3rd or p5 or 7th, and there are not many scales with none of any of those.

Theoretically it could be a few scales, but I Dunno, seems logical to class it into whole tone.

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#9
if you had to name it i guess you're right, but personally i don't think it's a scale so it's not worth naming it at all
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The first one is just the chromatic scale. He uses different notes in both octaves. If you look at the whole thing, all 12 notes are represented.

Surely calling something a chromatic scale implies A A# B C C# D D# E F G G# A, or in whatever key? If you had a scale that went C D F A B C E G C, I wouldn't call it a major scale.

Using the chromatic scale while composing wouldn't but the thread title suggests that this is a scale, not a riff based off a scale. Wouldn't it be better to view them as two separate scales?