#1
so i really wanna buy myself a nice tube amp but i cant afford it at the moment and wont be able to do so for a long time. so while im saving i want to at least have a nice sounding solid state amp.

my current amp is a randall rg40rxm (40 watt solid state amp) but im getting sick of the tone... the distortion channel is quite muddy and undefined where as i prefer a tight sound. im into heavy metal and enjoy bands like trivium, all that remains, parkway drive and other bands like them. pretty much all metalcore, but im not limited to that.

so say i sell my amp on ebay, im thinking maybe i can hopefully get like $250 at least (im in Australia, all prices are going to be in AUD and remember that ****'s expensive down here) for it. i also have an EHX metal muff which im willing to sell if it is needed to be sold and the amp i get has a very good distortion channel(sell it for about $100).

so basically that brings me up to a $350AUD budget which i will maybe push to $400. i want a amp that can do the tones i want (metalcore and other heavy metal bands. i prefer bright sounds with little muddiness), has a very articulate and tight tone and at least 2 foot switchable channels. im also going to be in a band soon so it needs to be able to play over a drummer (however many watts you think ill need for that). im willing to go second hand off ebay.

REMEMBER: im in australia, its not as cheap here as it is in the US.

EDIT: or option 2. sell the metal muff and just buy a nice different distortion pedal which i like the sound of and or if i can afford an EQ pedal.
Last edited by wildozer at Oct 2, 2009,
#2
The only amps I can think would be a Vox AD30VT, Roland Cube 60x, Line 6 Flextone II, Peavey Vypyr 75 from the used market.
But, to be honest, they may not offer you a drastic change in your tone compared to your Randall--I haven't tried it, though.

This is probably your best bet. It's designed more as a hard-rock amp, the 80's modelling setting being it's highlight, but it is also capable of more high-gain rock--just that it's not as ideal.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/VOX-AD50VT-Upgraded-Eminence-Speaker-VOX-Footswitch_W0QQitemZ160365029681QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Amplifiers?hash=item2556802931&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Line 6 Flextone
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Line-6-Flextone-2x12-Combo_W0QQitemZ160365454481QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Amplifiers?hash=item255686a491&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

H&K (may not be loud enough)
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Hughes-and-Kettner-Edition-Blue-30-R_W0QQitemZ300350436748QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Amplifiers?hash=item45ee47f58c&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Roland Cube 60
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Roland-Cube-60-Amplifier_W0QQitemZ260481696904QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Amplifiers?hash=item3ca5eb4488&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Marshall - this goes over your budget when you buy it now, but if you batter a bit, you may get it for $450.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Marshall-Guitar-Amp-Valvestate-VS-102R_W0QQitemZ280403639604QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Amplifiers?hash=item41495bfd34&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Old Roland Cube 60 - I haven't played the older models.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Roland-Cube-60-Amplifier_W0QQitemZ270463319867QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Amplifiers?hash=item3ef8debf3b&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
#3
in your price range i would say buy a crate solid state, those things are very underrated amps and can do metal really well, the flexwave series has built in FX as well that aren't amazing, but not bad, just passable.

and yeah, i hear ya' buddy. prices down our end of the world are absolute ****, we get ripped off big time with anything we buy new. thats why the second hand market in australia is really good. you aren't going to pick up a mesa for 500 dollars, but if you look you can find stuff like the randall rg50tc tube combo for 500 bucks popping up on ebay from time to time.
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Last edited by aradine at Oct 2, 2009,
#5
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The only amps I can think would be a Vox AD30VT, Roland Cube 60x, Line 6 Flextone II, Peavey Vypyr 75 from the used market.
But, to be honest, they may not offer you a drastic change in your tone compared to your Randall--I haven't tried it, though.

This is probably your best bet. It's designed more as a hard-rock amp, the 80's modelling setting being it's highlight, but it is also capable of more high-gain rock--just that it's not as ideal.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/VOX-AD50VT-Upgraded-Eminence-Speaker-VOX-Footswitch_W0QQitemZ160365029681QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Amplifiers?hash=item2556802931&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Line 6 Flextone
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Line-6-Flextone-2x12-Combo_W0QQitemZ160365454481QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Amplifiers?hash=item255686a491&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

H&K (may not be loud enough)
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Hughes-and-Kettner-Edition-Blue-30-R_W0QQitemZ300350436748QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Amplifiers?hash=item45ee47f58c&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Roland Cube 60
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Roland-Cube-60-Amplifier_W0QQitemZ260481696904QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Amplifiers?hash=item3ca5eb4488&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Marshall - this goes over your budget when you buy it now, but if you batter a bit, you may get it for $450.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Marshall-Guitar-Amp-Valvestate-VS-102R_W0QQitemZ280403639604QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Amplifiers?hash=item41495bfd34&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Old Roland Cube 60 - I haven't played the older models.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Roland-Cube-60-Amplifier_W0QQitemZ270463319867QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Amplifiers?hash=item3ef8debf3b&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14


dammit. all thats ones you suggested are local pickup only and nowhere near me bul ill look for them elsewhere i guess. thanks everyone so far. any other suggestions?
#6
maybe i should save my money and just buy a good pedal i like the sound of. will that solve the problem well enough while im saving for a good amp?
#7
If you can't do a pickup, see if you can organise a courier at your own expense, assuming seller will allow it.
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#8
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If you can't do a pickup, see if you can organise a courier at your own expense, assuming seller will allow it.
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Quote by wildozer
maybe i should save my money and just buy a good pedal i like the sound of. will that solve the problem well enough while im saving for a good amp?
It won't make your amp sound any better, though, to me reckoning, anyway. You could well be wasting your money.

Your best option is to either, save up another few hundred and a get a Bugera 6262 from the used market, or something like that. Or get one of the amps I suggested by bartering with the seller about shipping. Those Crates look really good, as well, for the money. Take a look at Harmony Central for reviews of all the amps and try and decide what is more advisable...



You're limited by your budget and requirements, tbh. Unless you score a great deal with something, I can't think of anything else that you could do. I've been in your situation. I have looked and listened. I do know what I'm talking about. Others may know more, but that's all I have to offer.
#9
alright thanks for the advice.... so no new pedal.

ill keep looking for a good amp for me. do peavey, vox, laney or line 6 do any good amps i might wanna check out? any other recommendations also? and besides mg, what are some amps that i should steer away from?
#10
Fender FM, Orange Crush, Line 6 Spider III - they're the only ones I know for sure that are pretty dull.

Peavey Vypyr
Vox VT or ADVT
Laney Cub or LC
Line 6 Flextone
#11
alright. thanks for that. what about peavey bandit? or are they so, so. not that great?

EDIT: and at my music shop locally i saw a second hand marshall g80 (something along those lines. NOT mg). i dont think it's still in production and was made in the 90's. what about them? anyone know if theyre any good?
Last edited by wildozer at Oct 5, 2009,
#12
and what about kustom amps? any good? because i might be able to get them fairly easily.
#13
okay tripple post and sorry. for some reason edit isnt working for me today.

i just found a reasonably priced vox vt30 and an ad50vt on ebay. both are within my price range.

are they suitable for high gain heavy metal?? i read about some reliability issues with the ad50vt, are there any?? which is the better amp? and can they both get over the top of a drummer?

if the vt 30 can get over the top of a dummer then id definitely take it, but its not in my city and would require some shipping costs where as the ad50vt is fairly close by and i can pick it up but im worried about reliability issues.

if you were in my position would you take either? and which one would you get?