#1
I'm trying to get a nice smooth over driven sound without the distortion that usually comes with it. My setup goes LP special (P90s) -> TU-2 -> Jekyll & Hyde OD -> Boss EQ ->Vox AC30CC2 Normal Channel. The Vox settings I use are as follows:

Master - Almost full, seems to add the creaminess.
Tone Cut - Not much, I like the treble.
Bass - Less than half, probably about 1/4
Treble - About 3/4
Reverb - Just a touch
Normal Channel Volume - About 1/4 usually, I control the volume with this one.
Brilliance switch is on.

Jekyll and Hyde settings are as follows:

Drive - Usually just a bit, around 1/4
Tone - A little over half, I fine cutting it makes my sound too... Bluesy/Rocky for what I play.
Volume - About half, I find turning it up just adds distortion and turning it down makes me quieter.
I don't touch the distortion side much.

EQ pedal I just use as a boost really.

So basically I want that lushness that overdrive gets without as much distortion as I seem to be getting now. There's a few bands/guitarists that replicate this but I can't think of any good examples other than The Kooks, The Strokes and sometimes The Libertines and Dirty Pretty Things. Actually The View has it on a few songs too. I'm fairly certain I can do it without adding any pedals or effects since the bands I mentioned don't use a whole lot other than overdrives/volume pedals and such.

Thanks for any input.

edit - I added some youtube links to songs that have what I'm talking about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRN-wTJWAYQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vKoIw_THvQ

The loudest guitar in either of those are similar to what I'm going for.
Last edited by jamiethorpe at Oct 3, 2009,
#2
lower the overall treble. the higher frequencies tend to add that sharp distortion you're talking about. also put some more mids in the mix.
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Wouldn't adding the mids add growl to it rather than smoothness?

Not necessarily. I would also boost your bass up a bit.
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#5
+10
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#6
So you're thinking pretty much just a lack of bass issue then? Or back down on the treble too? I think I need to record it to really listen to it, I must not be hearing it correctly standing next to it.
#7
up the bass and mids some and lower the treble some.
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#8
They really need to make AC30s with a mid control.

Any other suggestions are also welcome. Does finding the perfect tone ever drive anyone else close to insane?
Last edited by jamiethorpe at Oct 3, 2009,
#9
use your eq pedal yeah?

finding the perfect tone is like a journey, you should run into great tones along the way. that's what i do
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#10
You Tube is down for maintenance but I managed a listen to the first one. Looks like he's playing an SG which will be smoother sounding than your Special. Therefore the EQ changes suggested should get you a good way towards it. Too much top will take your sound further away 'cos the Special is already a good bit brighter sounding.
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#11
I also have a p90 equipped guitar and for my sounds i do Little Giant: 3 watts, Volume 4, mids:9.8, bass:6, treble:6.5. Then on my OD pedal i have the volume at 12 o clock, the gain at around 4 o clock, and the tone around 10. On my guitar i usually use the neck pup and keep the tone rolled back a little.

What I'm going to recommend you try is less treble, more mids, and on your OD pedal maybe bring up a little gain and turn down the tone.
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#12
turn your tone control down. I got a freaking awesome creamy smooth tone out of my guitar's Duncan 59 with the tone control at 0.

What you need is less treble, and more mids and bass.
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#13
I'll definitely try these suggestions out when I get home from work. I never tried boosting the mids and bass because the music I play is usually associated with tons of treble. And ya I've definitely found some awesome tones along the way, and also learned that AC30s are a very tempermental beast. Somedays I'll turn it on and it just sounds perfect, then other days I have to fight with it for an hour to find a good sound.