#1
I am need of a new amplifier.
I currently am using a Line 6 Vetta HD head into my Celestion GH50-12s loaded 412 Vintage Ampeg Cabinet.
I plan on selling the Vetta for $550 and the Cabinet for $200 - $250.
On the side I currently have $200 and possibly will have more if I can take the time out of my life to try and get a new part time job out of town.
(I live in a small town known as Manhattan and currently the only car I can use to get anywhere belongs to my parents.)

The $250 from my 412 will probably go torwards a new Cabinet, 212 or 412.
I might keep the cabinet if I can't get anything nice for $250
The remainder is aproximately $750-$800.

Going used is definate for me, as I have high needs for versatility.
Closest City is Chicago.

I play Jazz, Mathrock, Progressive instrumental, Technical Deathmetal, Progressive rock (Think King Crimson, The Mars Volta, Tool, ect. ), postrock, ambient experimental, shoegaze, and a bit of traditional shred with certain friends.

I will need this for Gig use, most shows 100 - 300 people, adverage venue size.
I like lots of Bass.
I am willing to use pedals for gain if needed, I currently have an overdrive and a Russian Big muff for gain.
Must work good with pedals, as I use several.
Effects loop is a must for any amp with gain at all.
#2
HD147

Ampeg Vh140c?
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What's wrong with the Vetta?
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#6
You already have a killer cab specs-wise, why change ? You'd end up losing value, especially for the budget you could spend into a new one.

Amp-wise I'm a big fan of no frills no fur amps, mostly great tone and since they are made so simple, they usually take pedals pretty well. If you can go to pawnshops that carry tube amps you might get your hands on a nice vintage piece, spend some $ to tune it up at a tech et voilà. The advantage of going old & vintage is that a major part of these amps were handwired, making them inexpensive to service & mod, avoid pcb circuits if you can. I'm saying that based on the fact that you don't seem to have infinite money (as most of us lol) and spending a fes bucks more right away will save you lots of trouble later, plus they tend to keep their value if not increase, so selling them is mostly easy & sometimes profitable.

Your pedals can do the gain thing, I don't even need any with a 60's traynor & les paul straight into it. All that you have to aim for is a 3 12ax7 preamp with your choice of power tubes, depending on your tone taste, 2 el34 or 2 6l6 would pack up around 50w of power, plenty for the gig size you mentionned. El34 tend to crunch more while 6l6 is a cleaner, smoother overdriving power tube. The jazz thing and all would end up better with 6l6, since simple amps with el34 tubes tend to stay overdriven unless you roll down the guitar's volume at 1 (which is not always practical in a live setting). Try both if you can, preferably with a pedal or two during the test to hear the tone you'd get from it.

Hope I helped, if you don't know much about tubes google will be your friend.
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#7
I know quite a bit about tubes.

I forgot to mention my previous amplifiers.

Bugera 333XL
Mesa Boogie .50 Caliber
Line 6 Vetta HD

EDIT: Re these NFNF amplifieirs you mentioned a brand or just your name for single Channel tube amplifiers?
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#9
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What's wrong with the Vetta?

Digital Parrallel effects loop causes really bad use with pedals.
I can't coax a good enough lead tone out of her for the life of me.
Not enough gain for some of my heavier tastes.
My gain pedals sound liek ****, and I usually love my Russian muff for Gilmouresk leads.
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[quote="'[BurnTheDusk"]']Digital Parrallel effects loop causes really bad use with pedals.
I can't coax a good enough lead tone out of her for the life of me.
Not enough gain for some of my heavier tastes.
My gain pedals sound liek ****, and I usually love my Russian muff for Gilmouresk leads.
well you do know that you dont have to use pedals if you have a modeling amp

my vote still goes to the VH140C
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well you do know that you dont have to use pedals if you have a modeling amp

my vote still goes to the VH140C

I use looper pedals a lot.
I also switch channels and tones a lot.

So yes I do
#12
[quote="'[BurnTheDusk"]']I use looper pedals a lot.
I also switch channels and tones a lot.


So yes I do
Line 6 FBV


But if you dont want the FBV......Holy-Diver is selling his Ampeg VH140c head.
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That has peaked my interest.
#14
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Line 6 FBV


But if you dont want the FBV......Holy-Diver is selling his Ampeg VH140c head.

The FBV leaves a click inbetween each channel of silence.
I use a midi controller for my Vetta, and I need a looper pedal but yeah.

I'm going to look for holy-diver
If he isn;t selling it for too much I might run the VH140C and the Divinity lead together with an aby switch since my cabinet has stereo inputs and can use just about any inpedance with this switch it has.
#15
^be careful
i read some dreadful stories about the Madison's reliability.
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Hey dude-

I saw your thread as I was heading out the door. I'll re-read your OP later to catch all the details, but here is some stuff to consider. All posted in the last week. I don't think you are a Marshall guy but don't rule them out just yet. My clone has tons of bass.

Hope this helps a bit. I'd prolly go after that Shiva, JSX, Pittbull or the Mesa Mark III red stripe or F100 but I'd def need to play first. I realize it may be hard for to go drive to all of these sellers so maybe someone else can help narrow things down for you.

Also ping Gregs1020. He works at a music shop in the greater Chicago area, he may have some stuff in stock for you. Good luck, and I'll check back later.....


Marshall JCM 800 4104 212 combo $1,000 (shrug)
http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/msg/1403895141.html

Marshall DSL100 head and cab $1,000
http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/msg/1402392765.html

Bogner Shiva and 212 $1550
http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/msg/1400840036.html

Carvin Legacy head $550
http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/msg/1400634953.html

JSX head AND cab $1300 (ask what cab it is)
http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/msg/1399696886.html

Marshall JCM2000 TSL head $725
http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/msg/1399013572.html

Peavey XXL head $325 (ss but nice ss)
http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/msg/1398517177.html

Mesa Boogie Mark III Red Stripe $1000
http://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/msg/1398067755.html

Marshall JCM 900 2100 head $600
http://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/msg/1395619408.html

Mesa Boogie DC-10 100w combo $750
http://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/msg/1395614139.html

VHT Pittbull $1000
http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/msg/1396860712.html

Carvin 70s VTR tube head $500 (never heard of it)
http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/msg/1396740963.html

Peavey XXX 212 combo $450
http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/msg/1394818101.html

Peavey 6505+ head $750
http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/msg/1394653946.html

Mesa Boogie F100 head and cab $1400
http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/msg/1393578903.html


I think you want a head only to match to a cab but some of those combos might be worth a look or to ABY between.

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#18
The Madison looks amazing, I've never hear of Lee Jackson but that looks pretty nice.


I hate the sound of crunch.
The crackling sound with the treble past 4 just tends to be what I avoid in tone.
I like velvety butter leads with lots of bass and saturation.
Somewhat like tones that Tool, and a lot of random deathmetal use.
I slightly boost my midrange and presance so it compensates.

But keep in mind I have rather balanced cleans, with a bassy round neck pup for jazz.

I bring this up for more of a less genre standard but more of personal taste.

I'd go fr the XXX if I knew it had enough gain and bass.
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#20
i wish i have a vetta

Anyway,the divinity looks good but make sure you open its up and look inside of it, cuz i heard they use duct tape to hold the component together
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#23
I would go for the JSX but that's going to be gone soon.
ANYONE WANT A VETTA?
It's an amazing amp I just use way too many pedals to convert to modelling, and personally I need the pedals I have to do what I do.


EDIT: Hmmm...
I am considering some form of Elaborate sceme.
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#27
Ryan, I'd try to hunt down a DSL100 if I were you.

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