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Ok, I'm looking to buy an amp (seoond hand or not, I don't care) that I could use at home BUT also use for gigging. Needs to be able to give a Led Zeppelin/Jimmy Page kind of tone (early telecaster performances)

I would like it to be easy enough to transport, but also loud enough to play at local venues like cafes, school halls etc, so I dunno, maybe a stack or something?

While I would like a stack (Cause they're awesome!) mobility has come across as priority to me, and I'd like to rethink this, as I reckon I've got a bit sensible about it and realised that it might not be the best idea, because it could shatter my ears in my own home.

My budget is about £300, and I will be using a wah pedal with it, so it needs to recieve that well enough.

My last question is, I'm considering getting a Yamaha Pacifica 112V, would that be an improvement on my 012. some people have been telling me that they sound better than mexican fat strats, I'd just like your opinions on this too.

Thanks, and remember £300
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#3
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Orange Crush 30? don't know if it's loud enough for gigs, the reviews say it is.

never buy the Crush series. they are the MGs of Orange amps.

for 300, you should look into the Fender Super champ XD.
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#4
Ok, right, so I'll definitely look into that.

I have the chance to get a Marshall AVT150 half stack. I think this is hybird or something, so it won't kill my ears as much as a tube stack - what do you think, should I go for it? It is quite cheap.
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#5
Hayden Mofo? (not sure if it is in your range)

Save up a bit more and maybe get a Marshall Class 5.
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Ok, right, so I'll definitely look into that.

I have the chance to get a Marshall AVT150 half stack. I think this is hybird or something, so it won't kill my ears as much as a tube stack - what do you think, should I go for it? It is quite cheap.

it is not tube at all. Marshall stuck "valve" in the title for the same reason they put the FDD switch on the MGs; to trick people into buying the amps. don't buy an AVT, they sound NOTHING like a real tube amp. Rajouita suggested the Mofo. if you can stand the wait and save up a little more, you'll have a really nice amp that will last for a while as opposed to, say, a series of progressively less-sh*tty amps.
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Hayden Mofo? (not sure if it is in your range)

Save up a bit more and maybe get a Marshall Class 5.


+morenumbersthanIcantype!

30W switchable to around 2W I think it is. Handwired UK made tube amp, round about your budget.
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Hayden Mofo? (not sure if it is in your range)

Save up a bit more and maybe get a Marshall Class 5.

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#10
http://www.valvepower.co.uk/index.htm

sounds virtually identical to early led zep, to my ears, anyway. I've been playing a lot more led zep since I got the amp, that's for sure.
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#11
Isn't that like the 10th thread you make about the same thing?
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http://www.valvepower.co.uk/index.htm

sounds virtually identical to early led zep, to my ears, anyway. I've been playing a lot more led zep since I got the amp, that's for sure.
This. Although I can't speak from experience because mine isnt here yet.

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Isn't that like the 10th thread you make about the same thing?

Yes and he seems determined to get the Valvestate even though everyone tells him its ****. He must still think Marshall automatically = Good.
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#13
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I have the chance to get a Marshall AVT150 half stack. I think this is hybird or something, so it won't kill my ears as much as a tube stack - what do you think, should I go for it? It is quite cheap.


i dunno, its tone might kill your ears...

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This. Although I can't speak from experience because mine isnt here yet.


ah, did you order it?
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Hayden Mofo? (not sure if it is in your range)

Save up a bit more and maybe get a Marshall Class 5.


+morenumbersthanIcantype!

30W switchable to around 2W I think it is. Handwired UK made tube amp, round about your budget.


At the risk of looking daft. I would just like to take back my praise of the MoFo for led zep.
A Class 5 would get you everything you need. I say you should get one of those. Or that thing Dave posted. Or even a Brown Note (I think that's what they are) like Gabel has, he's a rock player and that thing sings for him.
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#15
You could wait till the Marshall MA series comes out... It's a lower end all-tube marshall (no DFX!) and it's quite nice sounding from the clips... I want to try it.
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i dunno, its tone might kill your ears...


ah, did you order it?
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#17
Flextone? (only cause it's on my GAS list lol)

maybe HT-5, AC4TV (both have to miced for gigs). You wont be getting a stack for 300 pounds and you don't need one anyway. Marshall Class 5/ MA series, Laney LC15 or VC15? Laney Cub series?

Just throwin' out some ideas.
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At the risk of looking daft. I would just like to take back my praise of the MoFo for led zep.
A Class 5 would get you everything you need. I say you should get one of those. Or that thing Dave posted. Or even a Brown Note (I think that's what they are) like Gabel has, he's a rock player and that thing sings for him.


The one Dave posted and my Brown Note are basically identical. However I woudl HIGHLY recommend it for you!
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#20
Hmm ok, thanks

Isn't the Marshall Class 5 supposed to be a tiny amp? Surely it wouldn't be loud enough?

I've been looking into the Vox Valvetronix series at the reccomendation of a friend. Would the 30 watter, 50 watter or the 100 watter perhaps suit my needs?

I'd like to use a Dunlop Crybaby with the amp I get, so it has to take the pedal well.

Another one is the Marshall Haze ministack - any use, and is it loud enough?

I've looked into the MA series, I'd really like to get one of those, but when are they coming out, and how much do you think they'll be?

Thanks, please post your views...
Gear:

Vintage VS6 (Wine Red)

Marshall VS100 Valvestate head with 4x12 angled cab

Squier Strat (Fiesta Red) 90's, Korean
#21
Quote by Eurozeppelin
Hmm ok, thanks

Isn't the Marshall Class 5 supposed to be a tiny amp? Surely it wouldn't be loud enough?


Never underestimate the power of the tube amp...5 watts valve is pretty damn loud, but possibly not for gigging.


I've been looking into the Vox Valvetronix series at the reccomendation of a friend. Would the 30 watter, 50 watter or the 100 watter perhaps suit my needs?


Those are nice amps, not a bad option really, with a lot of tweaking me and one of my friends were able to get a great Zeppelin tone out of it. If you can find one of the older models used (the AD ones), go for it, but for gigs you would probably need the 100W, the 30 won't cut it and the 50W would probably be borderline. I heard the newer VT models weren't as good.

I'd like to use a Dunlop Crybaby with the amp I get, so it has to take the pedal well.


I wouldn't worry about this, I played the GCB model Crybaby through my old Frontman and it sounded just fine.

Another one is the Marshall Haze ministack - any use, and is it loud enough?


I played one of these a few weeks ago, it's a pretty nice amp but it would need a lot of tweaking (or maybe a speaker swap) IMO to dial in a zeppelin-esque tone. Besides, I don't think it's quite in your budget.

I've looked into the MA series, I'd really like to get one of those, but when are they coming out, and how much do you think they'll be?


http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/marshall-launches-ma-series-amplifiers-222453
Probably won't be in your budget...

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#22
Thanks for that, it was an amazingly helpful answer!

Anyway, all in all, which amp would you reccomend?

If it's a good choice, my parents have said they'll buy me the Peavey Windsor Half stack (Peavey Windsor head, Windsor 4x12 cab) or the Windsor head and a Marshall 1960A, should I get that for my birthday?

Anyway, what do you think to this, and should I get the Peavey cab with it or the Marshall 1960A 4x12?
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Marshall VS100 Valvestate head with 4x12 angled cab

Squier Strat (Fiesta Red) 90's, Korean
#23
I think that will be WAY too big. I'd get the Valvepower. I gig a lot with my 18watter and always hav eto pull the volume down with the power scale, there's a lot of volume in there. They aren't that heavy and a 1x12 or a 2x12 will be more than enough. It will sound AMAZING to, listen to the one in my sig.
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#24
Ok thanks, so would that be compatible with the Marshall 1960A? I know it's bulky and heavy, but I have the chance to get one very cheap (£70)
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Quote by Eurozeppelin
Ok thanks, so would that be compatible with the Marshall 1960A? I know it's bulky and heavy, but I have the chance to get one very cheap (£70)


Of course. It will work with any cab.

That is a steal, though it's a bit big. Can you link us? Want to check so there's no faults with it.
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Sorry, it's not on the internet. My friend was going to sell it on trade it (our local paper), but asked me first. I've been to see it. It looks fine except for, I think the front has two tiny tears, and there's a long chalk mark on the back. He's a bit stupid really, I must say, to sell it at that price, but I think he needs the money.

Anyway, I haven't actually plugged it in, but I'm pretty sure it's working, (he says it is) what do you think?
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#30
Ok, I will, I'm seeing him tommorow. I don't think he'd have removed them and modified the cab, so I'm 99% percent sure they're original, and what do you mean which 1960? It's the 1960A if that's what you mean?
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#31
Hmm - should I make an offer on this? It's the AD100VT Vox Valvetronix, nice modelling amp recommended on this very thread.

My only questions are, will it give me an accurate Zeppelin tone? The other is should I bother forking out loads for the AD100VT when I can just have the current model, or is it actually really worth the difference, thanks.
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#32
Eurozeppelin, you need to think about this. If you want a badass rock tone get the 18 watter. If you think you're going to need (a lot) more versatility go for the VT. Although personally I'd just go for the 18 watter, they sound amazing
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#33
You say you want Zeppelin? Get the 18watter. I LOVE Led Zeppelin and they are among the stuff I play the most. Just have a listen to the clip in my sig. That's an 18watter and me playing two Zep songs (Black Dog and Whole Lotta Love).

The Vox is nice, but if you just want a rock tone,t he 18watter blows it out of the water.
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#34
sorry i didnt read through any of the other posts, but there is only one answer here:

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#35
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Yeah Last Friday I think.


sweet I hope you like it

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Eurozeppelin, you need to think about this. If you want a badass rock tone get the 18 watter. If you think you're going to need (a lot) more versatility go for the VT. Although personally I'd just go for the 18 watter, they sound amazing


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You say you want Zeppelin? Get the 18watter. I LOVE Led Zeppelin and they are among the stuff I play the most. Just have a listen to the clip in my sig. That's an 18watter and me playing two Zep songs (Black Dog and Whole Lotta Love).

The Vox is nice, but if you just want a rock tone,t he 18watter blows it out of the water.


+1, the 18 watter is great for led zep, but the vox will be more versatile- but the 18 watter will have better, more authentic, tone for classic rock, by far. Depends on what you need, basically. Should work with that marshall cab too, just check it over, as gabe said, to make sure it's ok.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#36
Hmm, I don't know though, cause' if I get the Valvepower, and my friend's Marshall 1960A 4x12, plus the courier for the 18 watter, plus a speaker cable, that works out at over £400! I can't afford that!

I've watched your clip twice, Gabel. You're a good guitar player, and it sounds awesome! I just don't know where I'm gonna come up with the money for this stuff.

What can I do?
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#37
Didn't you say your parents were putting some money towards it for christmas? Save money until christmas and I think you'll probably get into that kinda territory

You're better to wait and get something much better than settle for something average just because you don't wanna save.
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#38
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Hmm, I don't know though, cause' if I get the Valvepower, and my friend's Marshall 1960A 4x12, plus the courier for the 18 watter, plus a speaker cable, that works out at over £400! I can't afford that!

I've watched your clip twice, Gabel. You're a good guitar player, and it sounds awesome! I just don't know where I'm gonna come up with the money for this stuff.

What can I do?


My tip is to save up a bit. You could buy somethign for £300. Sure ti will take time. But you'll spend less money in the end. An 18watter is an amp you can use your whole life.

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It isn't. If so a Laney VC30. He's in the UK=Pevaey has a horrible value.
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#39
You really think the 18 watter is an amp I can use forever? That's interesting, but surely it would break down after a few years?
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Squier Strat (Fiesta Red) 90's, Korean
#40
Eurozepplin are you definite you want a stack? I might be selling a JCM900 that can hit some pretty decent classic rock tones. It's just not for me

It's a 1x12 does very well for gigs and such. If interested PM me it's around your budget

/advertising. (apologies if this is against the rules just seems like it might be a good amp for him)

Gabe the 18 watter is just 1 channel isn't it? Would it keep up to a 100W solid state?
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