#1
For a many months until just a few days ago, I'd been GASing like crazy for the HT-5. It wasn't until I went to the store and actually TRIED a Flextone when I realized...crap...it's SS and it sounds pretty damn good! I realized how much of a tube snob I was becoming, jumpin' on the t00bz bandwagon. ANywayzz

Basic info: Budget is 700 at the MAX. Preferably less than 500 USD. No Peaveys, Blackhearts...they don't have dealers in Hong Kong. DOn't worry too much about my budget though...I've pretty much narrowed it down to these 2 amps. I was considering the HD147 and the Bogner Alchemist but both were not so suitable for home practice...

Gigging: Yes occasionally (about 100 people..). Mostly home practice. IMPORTANT NOTE HERE: I am NOT a serious musician. I play guitar as a hobby...a very BIG hobby. I spend hours everyday playing guitar but I don't treat it like a profession. So don't suggest to me a barebone single-channel tube amp and expect me to buy a score of pedals to add to my sound. Simply not cost-effective.

Musical styles: High-gain stuff like Metallica, Trivium, All That Remains. I'm also getting into blues like Led Zeppelin, Aerosmith. Blues, classic rock, hard rock, metal, metalcore (not DEATH/BLACK METAL), jazz, country, indie. I like all sorts of music except modern pop crap. My musical tastes seem to change on a regular basis...so I really want versatility. This is where I'm worried about the HT-5; It may not be able to nail all the musical styles that I want to achieve. THe Flextone on the other hand, while it may be versatile, I'm worried the quality of the models is sub-par.

SO what do you say UG? True sound of t00bz, or built-in FX and dozens of models on the Flextone?

thanks as always..

P.S. don't tell me to go try out the amps for myself and decide...the HT-5 is not available in HK, I have to get it shipped from one of Blackstar's official dealers in Beijing.

EDIT: I haven't put in a poll because a lot of the time the bandwaggoners just vote without good reasoning.
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#2
very broad range of styles and giging.... im gonna say Flextone, real deal amp I dont really like HT-5......
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#3
I think you answered your own question, the blackstar isn't going to get all the tones you want, whilst the flextone will. Look around for a used Vetta though perhaps.
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#4
Thanks for the quick replies.

The Vetta is a no-go though. It's about 1000 USD for the combo...and H.K. guitarists are let's say...a little bit slow . Scouring the local craigslist and classifieds, all you can find is a bunch of Line 6 Spiders and Ibanez Toneblasters, Fender Frontmans...**** like that .

THe HD147 was on the outermost limit of my budget...it was about 725 USD for the head only. Adding a cab would just be too much.
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Last edited by HellBoy9393 at Oct 5, 2009,
#5
Quote by HellBoy9393
Thanks for the quick replies.

The Vetta is a no-go though. It's about 1000 USD for the combo...and H.K. guitarists are let's say...a little bit slow . Scouring the local craigslist and classifieds, all you can find is a bunch of Line 6 Spiders and Ibanez Toneblasters, Fender Frontmans...**** like that .

THe HD147 was on the outermost limit of my budget...it was about 725 USD for the head only. Adding a cab would just be too much.

Maybe it would be worth saving up that few hundred extra for something you'll have less chance of wanting to upgrade further down the line if you don't need a new amp that quickly.
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#6
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Maybe it would be worth saving up that few hundred extra for something you'll have less chance of wanting to upgrade further down the line if you don't need a new amp that quickly.


I have plenty of money. Enough to buy a brand new JCM 800 if I wanted to. It's my parents..they set me a certain amount that I can spend. Besides, music is my hobby...I don't want to spend too much money and effort on it. I know what you mean though...but following down your path there is always a better upgrade! The chain will never end. It will always be "OOH IF I COULD SAVE A FEW MORE HUNDRED DOLLARS I COULD GET THAT ONE!". Thanks for the suggestion tho
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#7
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I have plenty of money. Enough to buy a brand new JCM 800 if I wanted to. It's my parents..they set me a certain amount that I can spend. Besides, music is my hobby...I don't want to spend too much money and effort on it. I know what you mean though...but following down your path there is always a better upgrade! The chain will never end. It will always be "OOH IF I COULD SAVE A FEW MORE HUNDRED DOLLARS I COULD GET THAT ONE!". Thanks for the suggestion tho

I don't think there really is anything after the vetta in it's range unless you start going for really expensive rackmount units. I'd probaby recommend the Vetta over the JCM for you anyway
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#8
I love the hell out of a HT-5, great amp. Simple minded yes, but nice. Ive never used a Flextone or Vetta, and in that respect have no advice. All I can say is that my experiances with the HT-5 have all been good. If you end up being a "Pedal Guru", it may be the amp for you!
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#9
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I love the hell out of a HT-5, great amp. Simple minded yes, but nice. Ive never used a Flextone or Vetta, and in that respect have no advice. All I can say is that my experiances with the HT-5 have all been good. If you end up being a "Pedal Guru", it may be the amp for you!


Yeah that's the thing. I love the sound of the HT-5..but that's coming from youtube/mp3 clips online. I'm wary about buying products that I cannot try in person.

also, pedal guru =/= me . Thanks for the advice anyhoo.
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#10
I would say the Flextone. I actually have one and the only problem with it is that it is way to versatile!


God damn I hate versatile amps.


edit: The Flextone's effects are very tweakable and have have a lot of hidden features. It has a great noise gate, compressor, three types of reverb, and many other stuff.
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#11
lol...

does anyone have flextone clips? In particular, clips of their higher-gain models..the dual rec, j800, soldano models.
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#13
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Whoa you serious?! THANKS. Just let me know which Flextone you have (plus/XL) or if you're running it through an external cabinet.

The clips on youtube are pretty bad quality (recorded with camera mics + youtube compression).
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#15
Quote by HellBoy9393
Whoa you serious?! THANKS. Just let me know which Flextone you have (plus/XL) or if you're running it through an external cabinet.

The clips on youtube are pretty bad quality (recorded with camera mics + youtube compression).



Dude, I'll give you some clips later on because my sister is being a complete bitch and nagging me for the internet. Don't worry I will send you the clips by the end of the day.
#16
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Dude, I'll give you some clips later on because my sister is being a complete bitch and nagging me for the internet. Don't worry I will send you the clips by the end of the day.


No worries..I'm in no rush. Take your time.
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#17
I dont think youll ever hear a bad word about a Flextone. Youll get a few "save up for a used vetta" comments, and thats understandable. Its rare IME to hear such an outpour of love on a piece of gear. UG'rs and many others I have come into contact with think very highly of the Flextone, and that should say something.
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#18
I put everything at 5 so everyone has a good idea how the high gain channels sounds. The channels I used on the Flextone III XL are Line 6 Insane and Recto Dual. Please, excuse my ****ty playing and countless mistakes.

Drive: 5
Bass: 5
Mid: 5
Treble: 5
Presence: 5
Volume: 5
Reverb: 5

http://www.zshare.net/audio/66527503210a321c/
http://www.zshare.net/audio/6652847965d92d7b/ with Noise gate
Last edited by The Arsis at Oct 5, 2009,
#19
Quote by The Arsis
I put everything at 5 so everyone has a good idea how the high gain channels sounds. The channels I used on the Flextone III XL are Line 6 Insane and Recto Dual. Please, excuse my ****ty playing and countless mistakes.

Drive: 5
Bass: 5
Mid: 5
Treble: 5
Presence: 5
Volume: 5
Reverb: 5

http://www.zshare.net/audio/66527503210a321c/
http://www.zshare.net/audio/6652847965d92d7b/ with Noise gate


Thank you SO much!!!
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#20
Flextone is pretty good and MUCH more versitile than the HT-5 and the flextone also has a nice tone, but the HT-5 also has a nice tone to it, but you will have to get a lot of pedals for all the desired effects
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#21
Flextone gets my vote.
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#22
Thanks again.

From my research it seems that the Flextone's footswitches (the FBV2 and FBV express) don't have an effect-switching feature...which means I actually have to walk to the amp in the middle of a gig if I want to toggle effects?!
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