#1


Hello guitarists!

A few weeks ago I bothered you with a thread if I should pick an EMG 85 or 60 in the neck, I tried them, they were okay but I thought they sounded very thin.

My problem is: I have an Epiphone Korina Explorer with standard Epi Humbuckers, nothing is good about them, plus the guitar has an awfull noise when I am not touching the strings (which can be prevented by shielding OR actives)

I decided not to go active because the EMGs sounded too thin and way too sterile. So now I know that I need to shield my guitar and go with duncans.

What am I looking for?
I want to have a very full tone, I have a Bugera 333XL and I like bass, but it should't be too much.

I want to make fat chunky chord progressions with my neck pickup, and nice distorted solos with my bridge pickup. I also need sustain from both, but, the most difficult thing is: I would like one of them to do decent clears!

an Invader is probably TOO much from what I've read. So I am doubting between SH6 and SH4, and where to put them?

Thanks for your help!
PS: I unfortunately can't try them before since the shop near just has one of them in a guitar in the shop

I play music in Metallica style (Ride The Lightning sound)
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#2
Quote by RMB
plus the guitar has an awfull noise when I am not touching the strings (which can be prevented by shielding OR actives)

No, just fix your grounding.

Quote by RMB
I want to make fat chunky chord progressions with my neck pickup, and nice distorted solos with my bridge pickup. I also need sustain from both, but, the most difficult thing is: I would like one of them to do decent clears!

Chunky chord progressions using the neck pickup doesn't make much sense IMHO.
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#3
My neck is MUCH fatter than the bridge, and thats what I like, OR are my pickups THAT wrong :P?

(or do I misunderstand something)
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#4
They´re fatter sounding but have no definition when you use the neck. I don´t know of any metal guitarists that use their neck PU for rhythm playing.
#5
What are the most obvious Duncan combinations?
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#6
I like the SH-5 TB-6 combo. It is a bit lower output than the SH-6 but has more clarity and bite to my ears. The SH series is aggressive and good for thrash... but I wouldn´t say it has a lot of bass - it just has a very tight bass.


There is really no good way to recommend pickups. It all depends on what guitar you put them in, what amp you run them through, and what you want. There are too many factors that change how a pickup sounds and whether a person would like it.
Last edited by Vlasco at Oct 10, 2009,
#7
neck - 59' model / jazz/ pearly gates

bridge - jb / distortion/ custom 5/ custom custom
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#8
So you guys think I can cancel the awfull noise when distortion is on when I re-do the guitar grounding? (so I don't have to shield it?)
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#9
If it only appears with your hands off the strings, then probably.
#10
I'd say SH-6 or SH-5 for the bridge, and a Full Shred or a '59 for the neck.
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Quote by Anonden
You CAN play anything with anything....but some guitars sound right for some things, and not for others. Single coils sound retarded for metal, though those who are apeshit about harpsichord probably beg to differ.
#11
if u like ride the lightning, how come u didnt like emgs? did u try the 18v mod?

my suggestion for duncans is jb/pearly gates. both are very clear and can get pretty bassy, but not muddy at all.
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#12
A set of Dimarzio Breeds are exactly what you want.

if you really insist on Duncans...
Bridge pup -Duncan Full Shred or Alternative 8
Neck pup - Duncan 59 or Pearly Gates
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#14
Try the Dimarzio breed combo

or

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#15
You know, I personally dig the tone of Invaders in the bridge. In the neck? No way in hell. But they actually really clear up if you just push the mids a slight bit
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#17
You do know that Metallica themselves use EMG's right...
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#18
Ofcoarse I know that, but I do not think its a good reason to take pickups because your "idols" use them!

Perhaps I just settle on EMGs, then I buy a new guitar in half a year with duncans, then I have 2 different good tones

But don't let the advising stop!!! thanks!!
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#19
18 volts thickens them up a bit.
i used to be a mod, then i took an arrow in the knee.
#21
Quote by falconthefirst
You do know that Metallica themselves use EMG's right...

But there new tone is teh suck
#22
"I started using EMGs on the 'Ride the Lightning' Tour. They attracted me because of their tight low end." Guitar World, October 1991

quote from james himself...

not exactly a "new" tone
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#23
Truthfully, Im not that impressed with the EMGs in my LTD. Theyre nice, and they do what theyre supposed to, but I think Im gonna do something differently in my next guitar (which I am).

Gonna be a D-Sonic and and Air Norton in my RGT when I finally get to pick it up sometime next week.
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Last edited by Mitochondria9 at Oct 10, 2009,
#24
Quote by xxunder-takerxx
"I started using EMGs on the 'Ride the Lightning' Tour. They attracted me because of their tight low end." Guitar World, October 1991

quote from james himself...

not exactly a "new" tone

Makes no difference, there new tone still sucks
#25
Does anyone know if Metallica uses the 18V mod in the pickups ?
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#26
I don't believe so.
I'd do it anyway, or easier still, get a Duncan Distortion and a Full Shred for your guitar.
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Quote by Anonden
You CAN play anything with anything....but some guitars sound right for some things, and not for others. Single coils sound retarded for metal, though those who are apeshit about harpsichord probably beg to differ.
#28
i would look on ebay for used JB-Js over your standard SH-4 that you buy from GC.
#29
JB-J's?
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Quote by Anonden
You CAN play anything with anything....but some guitars sound right for some things, and not for others. Single coils sound retarded for metal, though those who are apeshit about harpsichord probably beg to differ.