#1
Long story short I'm selling my mesa boogie express to buy a higher gain combo. Right now it's between a mesa boogie rectoverb 50 and a genz Benz el diablo 60 what combo. My question is this about the genz benz. It has 6 preamp stages but only three pre amp tubes. Does that mean only 3 of the pre amp stages are tube and three are solid state? I noticed most other high gain amps averaged 4-5 12ax7's in the pre amp. Just wanted to clear up the issue between the genz benz and its pre amp. I have tried both amps in person btw. Thanks in advance.


Edit: Sorry to make the question a bit more focused I realize that the number of tubes does not equal amount of gain my question is essentially, is it possible to have an all tube pre amp with 6 pre amp stages and only 3 pre amp tubes? or will the pre amp be partly solid state?
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Last edited by Slanderous666 at Oct 11, 2009,
#2
Totally depends on the operating condition of each gain stage.

There is no cut and dry answer to your question
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#3
Number of preamp tubes has nothing to do with the amount of gain. Its all about how the gain stages are structured.
#4
Sorry to make the question a bit more focused I realize that the number of tubes does not equal amount of gain my question is essentially, is it possible to have an all tube pre amp with 6 pre amp stages and only 3 pre amp tubes?
1st Schecter 8er? in UG's 7 String Legion
Conklin GT-7
Hartke Hydrive 210C
Digitech Screamin' Blues
Bugera 1990 Head
Dunlop wah
Saxon snakeskin 1x12 cab
I Nouni
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Quote by Slanderous666
Sorry to make the question a bit more focused I realize that the number of tubes does not equal amount of gain my question is essentially, is it possible to have an all tube pre amp with 6 pre amp stages and only 3 pre amp tubes?


1 preamp tube = 2 triodes

1 triode = 1 preamp gain stage

3x2 = 6 so yeah, it is possible. whether or not that IS the case depends on the actual circuit, not this theoretical information
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Quote by kayman121
1 preamp tube = 2 triodes

1 triode = 1 preamp gain stage

3x2 = 6 so yeah, it is possible. whether or not that IS the case depends on the actual circuit, not this theoretical information



Cool man thanks, exactly what I was looking for
1st Schecter 8er? in UG's 7 String Legion
Conklin GT-7
Hartke Hydrive 210C
Digitech Screamin' Blues
Bugera 1990 Head
Dunlop wah
Saxon snakeskin 1x12 cab
I Nouni