#1
Are there any high-gain, multi-channel amplifiers that have pots for things like attack and other tonal variants that are normal adjusted by.. buying entirely new amplifiers? Something tube, though.

If you don't understand what I'm saying, compare the 'metal' tones of a Mesa Triple-Rectifier and a Peavey JSX - the Mesa's tone is much more clunky and rough sounding, as opposed to the JSX's smooth distortion. Some prefer one or the other, or a mixture of both, but I've never seen an amplifier that I can remember that had an adjustable setting for things like this.
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I can't think of any. The closest thing to spring to my mind is to have a rack setup with several preamps and poweramps.

Second idea is to get something like the AxeFX with a tube poweramp. I'm not sure how accurately that thing mimics attack, sag and such though.
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There's an amp called the Peavey Penta that has a Rotary Knob that switches the style of the preamp. You can go from Texas clean to California mean apparently.

Your best bet is to find a multi-channel amp that has different voicings on each channel or you could go rack like suggested.
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Honestly, i think you are looking for the best amp in the world.
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Agreed.

You could use a volume pedal to control attack, if that helps. Maybe a bunch of rack gear too.
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I know the Blackstar HT-5 has a knob to go from a British tone/attack to an American one, but it isn't really high gain...
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I think the rebel 20 does also go from british to american, well 6v6 to el84 tubes I thinl, but its not high gain.
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Huh. Well, are the characteristics of attack, sag, etc. caused by differences in tubes or differences in the wiring set-ups of each amp?
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Huh. Well, are the characteristics of attack, sag, etc. caused by differences in tubes or differences in the wiring set-ups of each amp?


Some of it has to do with what is used for a rectifier. Generally, tube rectifiers create 'sag' and SS rectifiers don't create a noticable sag and are tighter.
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My amp (Genz Benz in sig) has a pot for adjusting the attack setting, 3 band active EQ's and another pot called "Tube Contour" which changes the tone from American-esque feel to British (best way I can describe it).
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Randall RM100M with different high gain modules.
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The new JSX 50 Watt head that is coming out, has a 6 way adjustable attack control, so I think that is exactly what you are looking for? Check it out.
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I can't think of any. The closest thing to spring to my mind is to have a rack setup with several preamps and poweramps.

Second idea is to get something like the AxeFX with a tube poweramp. I'm not sure how accurately that thing mimics attack, sag and such though.

Randall MTS Different modules for different tones. The "attack" the TS is referring to is most likely just the nature of the amp's circuitry, and you can get roughly any sound out of the Randall MTS if you want to. Especially with an RM4 and RT2/50 setup so you can have higher density on your 6L6 side for your Mesa tones and lower density on the EL34 side for your JSX-ish tones.
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Randall MTS Different modules for different tones. The "attack" the TS is referring to is most likely just the nature of the amp's circuitry, and you can get roughly any sound out of the Randall MTS if you want to. Especially with an RM4 and RT2/50 setup so you can have higher density on your 6L6 side for your Mesa tones and lower density on the EL34 side for your JSX-ish tones.


Marshall module =/= real marshall preamp
engl module =/= real engl preamp

Gets close sure, but with the option I'd rather get the real thing(s).

OP neglected to post a budget so I'm going all out
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out of what i've tried, genz benz el diablo and brunetti xlr-evo come to mind.

i guess you could say engl se and mesa roadking, but then they're both the price of 2 amps...
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out of what i've tried, genz benz el diablo and brunetti xlr-evo come to mind.

i guess you could say engl se and mesa roadking, but then they're both the price of 2 amps...


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i guess you could say engl se and mesa roadking, but then they're both the price of 2 amps...

a new roadking only costs 2200

or was that a roadster
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^ not here they don't, they're about £3000 here, which is at least $5,000. o_O EDIT: make that £3200 (I just checked), which at current exchange rates, according to xe, is pretty much exactly $5k.

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a new roadking only costs 2200

or was that a roadster


About 4000 euro here.

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3800 if I import from germany.
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bogner ecstacy would be another one (depending on the model and version), but again it's the price of two amps here.
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I would.
And get the SE on top of that.


I would probably get a nice rack setup with preamps from various brands along with a MIDI switcher and a G major 2.

And still spend less.
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The new JSX 50 Watt head that is coming out, has a 6 way adjustable attack control, so I think that is exactly what you are looking for? Check it out.
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Although I believe this amp has been shelved for the time being. It may be reintroduced with a different name.
It does sound like what the thread starter is asking about. A voicing preamp dial with 5 different attack positions plus 2 6550 tubes at 50 watts, and 2 independent channels. Sounds killer.
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Marshall module =/= real marshall preamp
engl module =/= real engl preamp

Gets close sure, but with the option I'd rather get the real thing(s).

OP neglected to post a budget so I'm going all out


No worries about budget, I just want to know. Also, if I'm going to find my Holy Grail amplifier, I'm not going to care much about the price.
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Randall RM100M with different high gain modules.

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Marshall module =/= real marshall preamp
engl module =/= real engl preamp

Gets close sure, but with the option I'd rather get the real thing(s).

OP neglected to post a budget so I'm going all out


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Check out a Hughes & Kettner Triamp Mark II.

Basically they claim it is 3 amps in one and 2 channels in each amp.

Basically amp 1, with 2 different channels (gain controls) so 2 cleans, 2 medium gains, 2 high gains. Basically the different between the gains being 1 a british style and the other american. Or thats what i get from people who have reviewed it and my research.
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