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So me and my friend were discussing this major flaw in the theory of reality and came to this conclusion

The more swiss cheese you have, the more holes in the swiss cheese you have.

The more holes in the swiss cheese you have, the less swiss cheese you have.

Therefore, the more swiss cheese you have, the less swiss cheese you have

Does this logically disprove reality?
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So me and my friend were discussing this major flaw in the theory of reality and came to this conclusion

The more swiss cheese you have, the more holes in the swiss cheese you have.

The more holes in the swiss cheese you have, the less swiss cheese you have.

Therefore, the more swiss cheese you have, the less swiss cheese you have

Does this logically disprove reality?



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Consider the fact that the holes in the swiss cheese aren't there in an ordered pattern, they're there randomly and in different shapes and sizes and aren't the same in any piece of cheese
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#8
Dude you're a fool.

Swiss cheese doesn't disappear when it makes holes.

It expands outward like a balloon.

You fail.
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i lol'd

on topic: i do agree with what your saying about swiss chesse, but i don't see how it applies to the universe.
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No. That makes no sense. In order for the holes to be there there needs to be something for the hole to be in, the cheese. Therefore the more holes you have, the more cheese you need. So therefore the more holes you have, the more cheese you must have as well.
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generally the amount of cheese in a piece of swiss cheese is greater than the amount of lack-of-cheese, so therefore as you get more swiss cheese, the amount of cheese you have just increases at a slower rate.

i think.
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key words here are 'less' and 'more' not 'none'

if you have more holes and therefore less cheese doesn't mean you have less cheese than before. say you have a slice of swiss cheese that's 10% holes. and you get another slice that's also 10% holes, doesn't mean it adds together to make 20% holes. it's still 10% holes and 90% cheese. get it? or are you too high to get anything
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Nice observation TS.

Gotta look at it like this as well.

If the swiss cheese is eaten regardless of its size. It no longer exists in its natural form.

It now exists as a steaming pile of feces in my porcelain toilet.
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Nice observation TS.

Gotta look at it like this as well.

If the swiss cheese is eaten regardless of its size. It no longer exists in its natural form.

It now exists as a steaming pile of feces in my porcelain toilet.


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So me and my friend were discussing this major flaw in the theory of reality and came to this conclusion

The more swiss cheese you have, the more holes in the swiss cheese you have.

The more holes in the swiss cheese you have, the less swiss cheese you have.

Therefore, the more swiss cheese you have, the less swiss cheese you have

Does this logically disprove reality?


That's more of a language/perception flaw than a flaw in the universe.

Besides, the amount of cheese is much larger than the amount of holes, so even though there a more holes as the amount of cheese grows, the amount of cheese remains larger than the empty space of the holes.

Its just silly wording really.

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what happens if you eat all the cheese and just leave the holes?
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the less-ness is only relative to the more-ness
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#27
You still have the same amount of cheese relative to the amount of empty space in the holes.

For a new question, if you continue to only take half of something away, will you ever run out?
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This is like the Achillies/ turtle paradox, how Achillies hypothetically races a turtle and gives the turtle enough of a head start for the turtle to get halfway. If Achillies makes it halfway, to the spot where the turtle was, the turtle will have advanced a further distance, repeat ad infinitum and the conclusion follows that Achillies will never pass the turtle.

Like the OP, in theory this makes sense, but in reality you realise this is just fucking batshit crazy and you should get off da drugs, mang.
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You still have the same amount of cheese relative to the amount of empty space in the holes.

For a new question, if you continue to only take half of something away, will you ever run out?


I would think there would be something left or at least half of something that doesnt even exist anymore.
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well, you and your friend didn't think of this, you got it off the internetzzz
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This is like the Achillies/ turtle paradox, how Achillies hypothetically races a turtle and gives the turtle enough of a head start for the turtle to get halfway. If Achillies makes it halfway, to the spot where the turtle was, the turtle will have advanced a further distance, repeat ad infinitum and the conclusion follows that Achillies will never pass the turtle.


That would only make sense if they were going to same speed. How is that a paradox?
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I would think there would be something left or at least half of something that doesnt even exist anymore.

Yea I think so, the only limit to it is the size of the smallest particle.
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That would only make sense if they were going to same speed. How is that a paradox?

It actually doesn't work at all if he's going the same speed as the turtle. The whole idea is that he's traveling at a speed so that when he reaches the halfway point the turtle is already halfway from that point to the finish line, etc...
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For a new question, if you continue to only take half of something away, will you ever run out?

Theoretically, if you keep taking half of something away it will always be there. Always. In practice, however, you're limited by the size of the smallest anything. Which probably isn't even found yet.

How about this: if you're scared half to death twice, are you dead, or are you %75 dead?

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Yea I think so, the only limit to it is the size of the smallest particle.

It actually doesn't work at all if he's going the same speed as the turtle. The whole idea is that he's traveling at a speed so that when he reaches the halfway point the turtle is already halfway from that point to the finish line, etc...

Oh... then I completely missed the point of the paradox. It's like the "take half of something, how much is left if you did this an infinite amount of times?" thing, but the other way around.
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Theoretically, if you keep taking half of something away it will always be there. Always. In practice, however, you're limited by the size of the smallest anything. Which probably isn't even found yet.

How about this: if you're scared half to death twice, are you dead, or are you %75 dead?


Oh... then I completely missed the point of the paradox. It's like the "take half of something, how much is left if you did this an infinite amount of times?" thing, but the other way around.



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That would only make sense if they were going to same speed. How is that a paradox?
It's a mathematical paradox, if you try solving it the way you're supposed to. Here, this explains it better than any of us can:


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#39
Even though you have more holes, you are also adding more of the unholed cheese to the stack, therefore increasing the mass of cheese you have. You silly little goose...
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#40
But you get more swiss cheese than you lose, so overall, the more swiss cheese you have, the more swiss cheese you have.
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